Speak of the devil.This is such a weird launch again from AMD. 15th of July today and we know nothing about ZEN5. No prices, no release day. Why they are doing it like this?
This slide is so misleading again. 5800X3D doesn't use more than 80W in gaming, so there's a good chance 9700X took more energy in the test. TDP doesn't say anything for gaming workloads. Oh and 7800X3D uses 60W for being 20% faster than 5800X3D.very happy that the 9700x is 65 watts TDP, with ppt of 88Watts. its nice to see the focus on efficiency on desktop.
This is such a weird launch again from AMD. 15th of July today and we know nothing about ZEN5. No prices, no release day. Why they are doing it like this?
Computerbase has 7800X3D being 17% faster that 5800X3D/7700X, so this means that 9700X @ stock should be 4-5% slower on average than 700X3D. Not bad at all.This slide is so misleading again. 5800X3D doesn't use more than 80W in gaming, so there's a good chance 9700X took more energy in the test. TDP doesn't say anything for gaming workloads. Oh and 7800X3D uses 60W for being 20% faster than 5800X3D.
Ryzen 7700X was a match for the 5800X3D. And now 9700X is 12% faster on average. It's not bad. I also appreciate the significantly lower TDP.AMD Ryzen 9000 series officially launching July 31st, Ryzen 7 9700X is 12% faster than 5800X3D - VideoCardz.com
AMD finally confirms Ryzen 9000 launch date, but not pricing New desktop CPUs are launching on July 31st. It’s official now, confirmed by several retailers stocking the new Ryzen 9000 CPUs or preparing for preorders and AMD themselves: the official launch date for Zen5-based desktop CPUs is...videocardz.com
very happy that the 9700x is 65 watts TDP, with ppt of 88Watts. its nice to see the focus on efficiency on desktop.
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Yeah the slide is misleading. I was refering to the fact that 120w 9700x rumour is false.This slide is so misleading again. 5800X3D doesn't use more than 80W in gaming, so there's a good chance 9700X took more energy in the test. TDP doesn't say anything for gaming workloads. Oh and 7800X3D uses 60W for being 20% faster than 5800X3D.
I guess my paltry scores at very low power vs Zen 4 and Zen 5 have a lot to do with my 12nm IOD vs the 6nm. I didnt bother with going JDEC speeds, I dont think the power addition would have done much.Just ran 40W at stock/JEDEC here but stock on my X670E Aorus Xtreme sets to 2000FCLK, not 1800FCLK as pictured in his screenshot.
Considering my 7950X outscored his by quite a lot at the same PPT and core power, it seems less than impressive.
Lowering my FCLK to 1800 simply increased the power available to the cores and bumped the score a few percent.
Marketing gotta earn the paycheck. Looking forward to their next bonus payment for coming up with the highly original Ryzen Gold, Silver and Bronze brandings.btw whycry noted in the comments gold is the new red for AMD CPU marketing now.
Computerbase has 7800X3D being 17% faster that 5800X3D/7700X, so this means that 9700X @ stock should be 4-5% slower on average than 5800X3D/7700X. Not bad at all.
It's crazy bad. Even if you just look at the numbers from Computerbase, a 13% uplift from 7700X to 9700X is ok-ish at best. Literally the worst gaming uplift of all major Ryzen Gens. The bad part comes when you realize that CB tests with Stock RAM, whereas AMD already used 6000 EXPO 2 years ago. HUB tests with EXPO RAM as well and 7700X is 8% faster than 5800X3D in their tests. So every Outlet that tests with EXPO RAM will have like 4% between 7700X and 9700X. Sorry, Vanilla ZEN5 looks like a complete Dud for gaming.Computerbase has 7800X3D being 17% faster that 5800X3D/7700X, so this means that 9700X @ stock should be 4-5% slower on average than 5800X3D/7700X. Not bad at all.
wdym "it's gonna be slower than 5800X3D by 4%" ? AMD just showed it's 12% faster on average (by their tests)Computerbase has 7800X3D being 17% faster that 5800X3D/7700X, so this means that 9700X @ stock should be 4-5% slower on average than 5800X3D/7700X. Not bad at all.
it's a typo, he meant 4-5% slower than 7800X3D.wdym "it's gonna be slower than 5800X3D by 4%"? AMD just showed it's 12% faster on average (by their tests)
Your own quoted slide says 62W for 5800X3D and 75W for 7700X. 9700X could potetentially draw 88W, AMDs slide is misleading, we don't know if it will be more efficient than 5800X3D.9700x would have ~92.5% gaming perf of 7800x3d and use less power than 5800x3d(105w) and 7700x(105w), very likely efficiency would be roughly on par with 7800x3d.
At Computex they claimed ZEN5 trashes 14900K. If these Numbers are right, 14900K will be slightly faster insteadAlso, this "3-4% slower / faster" was apparent from the Computex presentation, nothing really new here.
Yeah, but it IS more efficient. The silicon we are seeing today we should have seen at the launch of RDNA3. AMD would have thoroughly trounced NVIDIA had they been able to clock as high as they wanted. Imagine if all RDNA3.* SKUs were 19-32% faster.I really dislike AMD comparison of Radeon 800M x Radeon 700M. It doesn't disclose SKU, so we don't know if it's 16 CU x 12 CU or a apples to apples 12 CU x 12 CU. But still is a nice improvement, specially on the 15W TDP.
AMD confirms Radeon 800M (RDNA3.5) is 19% to 32% faster than Radeon 700M at 15W - VideoCardz.com
AMD confirms Strix Point RDNA3.5 is 32% faster than RDNA3 in Hawk Point at 15W in 3DMark TimeSpy Finally, AMD is revealing new performance estimates for Ryzen AI 300 GPU. Official benchmark scores are now available, revealing AMD’s performance in 3DMark TimeSpy and Night Raid benchmarks with...videocardz.com
Yeah but no one wants to buy 14900K after recent news 😅At Computex they claimed ZEN5 trashes 14900K. If these Numbers are right, 14900K will be slightly faster instead
Computex slide was for the 9950X, the current slide is for a 9700X.At Computex they claimed ZEN5 trashes 14900K. If these Numbers are right, 14900K will be slightly faster instead
I was checking eBay this morning for one. $219 for the cheapest “buy it now” listing. Not cheap enough yet. When you can get them for $50 I will pick one up. 🤣Yeah but no one wants to buy 14900K after recent news 😅