Oh sorry, I will edit it. CB=Computerbase. Didn't even think about Cinebench at the moment I wrote it.
It is linked in the previous page. A thing he said that he had some troubles with the BIOS and setting the correct IF speed, so he had to set it manually. In any case, there is no comparison to the 7900X - only to the 7800X3D. And I think it was clear that the 3D chip - especially with a single CCD - would have been better at gaming. Also some strange results, i.e. Fortnite @1080p is practically the same score as @1440p for the 9900X - a bit strange.Anybody see this? Just posted up, no idea how legitimate it is.
AMD Ryzen 9 9900X Early Gaming Tests Leaked By YouTuber, Slightly Behind Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Lower Power & Temperatures
The first gaming performance tests of AMD's Ryzen 9 9900X "Zen 5" Desktop CPU seem to have been leaked by an Italian YouTuber.wccftech.com
I mean I got about 8-9% lead for 7800X3D with these tests. That would match the "12% faster than 5800X3D" claim. So I would say yeah, seems to be legit. Now you can argue if the numbers are good or not. I would say they are close to horrible.Anybody see this? Just posted up, no idea how legitimate it is.
You are looking at it wrong. Starfield and Total War are what important here.1080p ultra/competetive, average fps, 7800x3d %faster than 9900x, anything within 3% is a tie:
Alan wake 2: tie
Total War: tie
City Skylines 2: +24%
COD warzone: tie
CSGO 2: +8%
Cyberpunk: +16%
Fortnite: +16%
Starfield: tie
The Last of us P1: +18%
Isn't that 2:1 mode? Strange to test them in this mode...EDIT: the RAM speed was set to 7200 for both CPUs
Yeah, that would unduly handicap the 9900X. It should be run at 8000 2:1 or 6000-6400 1:1Isn't that 2:1 mode? Strange to test them in this mode...
Horrible? The 9900X is clearly not the best choice for the gaming, but this was clear even before the launch, just as the 7900X is not the best choice for the gaming. But in every other aspect it will wipe the floor with the 7800X3D. The review is unfortunately missing quite a lot, like any comparison to the 7900X and to the Intel CPUs.I mean I got about 8-9% lead for 7800X3D with these tests. That would match the "12% faster than 5800X3D" claim. So I would say yeah, seems to be legit. Now you can argue if the numbers are good or not. I would say they are close to horrible.
But what do the guys at WTFTech smoke to write "lower power" in the headline? 102W average is way above 7800X3D. However, it's the 12 Core so it's sameish to 7900X. Still looks like a gen to skip. If they can't get 3D to clock with normal clocks, they only will have like a 10% lead over ZEN4X3D. Probably not enough to convince the majority to upgrade.
What?You are looking at it wrong. Starfield and Total War are what important here.
Wow, people speculating in a speculation thread? Insanity....The retail CPUs and reviews are not even out yet, and all this arguing about Zen 5 gaming performance ? Insanity....
Maybe MT applications fare better. Otherwise, this would be a hilarious launch.I mean I got about 8-9% lead for 7800X3D with these tests. That would match the "12% faster than 5800X3D" claim. So I would say yeah, seems to be legit. Now you can argue if the numbers are good or not. I would say they are close to horrible.
But what do the guys at WTFTech smoke to write "lower power" in the headline? 102W average is way above 7800X3D. However, it's the 12 Core so it's sameish to 7900X. Still looks like a gen to skip. If they can't get 3D to clock with normal clocks, they only will have like a 10% lead over ZEN4X3D. Probably not enough to convince the majority to upgrade.
Looks like GPU bottleneck in most of the testsAnybody see this? Just posted up, no idea how legitimate it is.
AMD Ryzen 9 9900X Early Gaming Tests Leaked By YouTuber, Slightly Behind Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Lower Power & Temperatures
The first gaming performance tests of AMD's Ryzen 9 9900X "Zen 5" Desktop CPU seem to have been leaked by an Italian YouTuber.wccftech.com
It is what he said.Isn't that 2:1 mode? Strange to test them in this mode...
Zen4 is like 30% slower than x3d in cs2, fyi, My own personal tests, done by locking the game to one or another CCDCSGO 2: +8%
That is a massive difference that more cache brings. Thanks for sharing.Zen4 is like 30% slower than x3d in cs2, fyi, My own personal tests, done by locking the game to one or another CCD
x3d
29-09-2023, 21:20:29 cs2.exe benchmark completed, 56597 frames rendered in 72.796 s
Average framerate : 777.4 FPS
Minimum framerate : 647.1 FPS
Maximum framerate : 928.7 FPS
1% low framerate : 254.0 FPS
0.1% low framerate : 197.7 FPS
ccd1
29-09-2023, 21:22:08 cs2.exe benchmark completed, 42766 frames rendered in 69.109 s
Average framerate : 618.8 FPS
Minimum framerate : 324.9 FPS
Maximum framerate : 817.8 FPS
1% low framerate : 161.2 FPS
0.1% low framerate : 10.2 FPS
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Typically this means that the game engine is optimised like dog 💩The total war games eat cpus for breakast.
It's pretty variable across different game engines and different levels tho from what I've seen of scores.That is a massive difference that more cache brings
On a partial excuse, he said the BIOS is the latest available on the Gigabyte site for his motherboard, and it has the 9000 series support advertised. On the negative side, a recap page with the configuration and list of drivers used would have helped a lot.It's not ideal to compare 2CCD chip with buggy BIOS (as per his own admission) versus the best gaming chip on the market. It would have been great if he could have used at least 9700X in the comparison.
I mean I got about 8-9% lead for 7800X3D with these tests. That would match the "12% faster than 5800X3D" claim. So I would say yeah, seems to be legit. Now you can argue if the numbers are good or not. I would say they are close to horrible.
But what do the guys at WTFTech smoke to write "lower power" in the headline? 102W average is way above 7800X3D. However, it's the 12 Core so it's sameish to 7900X. Still looks like a gen to skip. If they can't get 3D to clock with normal clocks, they only will have like a 10% lead over ZEN4X3D. Probably not enough to convince the majority to upgrade.
The "latest gigabyte bios" is buggy even with Zen 4 cpus. I have had to rollback from 1.2.0.0a to 1.1.7.0On a partial excuse, he said the BIOS is the latest available on the Gigabyte site for his motherboard, and it has the 9000 series support advertised. On the negative side, a recap page with the configuration and list of drivers used would have helped a lot.
Yeah, your right. I can't really hide that I expected more out of ZEN5. Not the 32% or whatever, but I still thought it would be a leap. I mean it's the first time AMD widened the arch like that since ZEN exists. And now it looks to be straightup worse than ZEN4 from the pure "performance uplift compared to predecessor" side. I mean Vanilla ZEN4 at least managed to be around 5800X3D. If 9700X is really 8-9% behind 7800X3D that is really a big gap, given we are at a point where 5% mean destroying the competition for some people.Horrible? The 9900X is clearly not the best choice for the gaming, but this was clear even before the launch, just as the 7900X is not the best choice for the gaming.