...only a part of the inventory which was first to arrive at distributors.If that is the case they wouldn't have to reexamine the entire current inventory.
Does this mean that Turin-dense is going to be early, or that Turin-classic is going to be late?Mike Clark said:And we're going to deliver 3nm here in short order with 4nm; basically, they're on top of each other.
If it comes to that, they will sell it in bulk to Chinese businesses and then you bet you will find them on Ali Express.(Besides, they might just discard it rather than refurbish it.)
Yeah, by a lot, each CCD gets 2*32B fabric uplink (aka the new norm going forward).
That's not the limiting factor at all.
And I believe DDR5 @ 8000 MHz dual channel would be ~ 128 GB/s ? So over twice the membwLPDDR5x @ 8533 MHz with 256-bit interface is 273 GB/s.
And I believe DDR5 @ 8000 MHz dual channel would be ~ 128 GB/s ? So over twice the membw
I don't understand the significance of the 2*32B fabric uplink thing if anyone cares to expand on that. I can't imagine that would bottleneck DRAM bandwidth right? But I'm guessing improves inter-CCD communication?
Still below Intel's CPU killing voltage.The hysteria is being overclocked to the max here with voltage set to red.
The CPUs sold in a few weeks will not be the same ones that are being recalled lol. The delay is likely just the time needed to ship out and restock shelves with chips that have been fully validated.OK, you are telling me that they will get the CPUs back, every single one of them, run them through their QA test gauntlet and get them back on shelves ON August 8th for the single CCD CPUs????
Please, please THINK about that for a second.
Doing that FOR all shipped CPUs regardless of region or territory means they have testing facilities in every region within reach. Please tell me that you don't believe that to be true because that would be ABSURD. Even Intel doesn't have that.
Possible I guess. Still, it would have been better if AMD had disclosed the exact nature of the issue and how an improperly validated CPU was gonna behave because quite a few people out there may have paid full or even more than full price for their CPUs that weren't supposed to be on sale yet and they will live with them and encounter some weird issue and think AMD sucks and the retailer isn't gonna bother about calling the customer to get that CPU back because they already got what they wanted: the customer's cold hard cash!The delay is likely just the time needed to ship out and restock shelves with chips that have been fully validated.
Possible I guess. Still, it would have been better if AMD had disclosed the exact nature of the issue and how an improperly validated CPU was gonna behave because quite a few people out there may have paid full or even more than full price for their CPUs that weren't supposed to be on sale yet and they will live with them and encounter some weird issue and think AMD sucks and the retailer isn't gonna bother about calling the customer to get that CPU back because they already got what they wanted: the customer's cold hard cash!
I hear you.If it's due to not having run all the validation checks as the statement by AMD's spokesperson says, AMD wouldn't know with reasonable certainty (99.999%+) how the CPU would behave - and that's the point of recalling it!
First N3E part in GA is M4, that is the opposite of a server part.N3E is enterprise/server, N3 is efficient junk. N3P is the value play performance/efficiency mainstream 3nm. N3X is for Nvidia, high end performance and increased silicon density.
Ah, so you are green with envy after all.Is AMD paying you for your statement? Or are you an AMD voluntary public service agent here on the forum?
https://wccftech.com/chinese-shopke...5-desktop-cpu-prices-lower-ryzen-7000-series/According to the retailer, the AMD Ryzen 9 9950X 16-Core CPU would cost $499 US (3631 RMB), the Ryzen 9 9900X 12-Core CPU would cost $399 US (2904 RMB), the Ryzen 7 9700X 8-Core would cost $299 US (2176 RMB) while the Ryzen 5 9600X 6-Core CPU would cost $229 US (1666 RMB).
No.N3E is enterprise/server
No, N3b is an entirely different node altogether.N3 is efficient junk
No.N3P is the value play performance/efficiency mainstream
That's an overdrive node strictly for AMD usage more or less.N3X is for Nvidia
If they can release it to compete head-to-head against Intel's next gen for the gaming crown, I don't know why they would artificially delay to CES and potentially give Intel a few months of the gaming crown (pending how the new processors actually perform, of course).is the zen 5 X3D still launching in September?
I kinda doubt it now. Probably CES 2025.
Just remember you heard it from me first!Not sure if this tidbit has been mentioned yet (thread moves faaast...)
More tentative pricing... from China... and seems to match the Best Buy leak from earlier...
https://wccftech.com/chinese-shopke...5-desktop-cpu-prices-lower-ryzen-7000-series/
Although it could be that the Chinese store owner is a reader of Anandtech forums...
We all know it was your cousin, don't try to take the credit now!Just remember you heard it from me first!
If there is any way those prices are real, they will be so backordered I will never get one until I am old and dead. The 7950x is down to $522, and that less than that.Just remember you heard it from me first!
Been arguing in favor of lower pricing for a while before Frank's store got stock -We all know it was your cousin, don't try to take the credit now!
All I see here is a bunch of hot air.
Meanwhile, Zen 4 closeout is getting even hotter. $470 7950X3D at Amazon for prime members. IIRC this has been an even hotter fire sale leading to the launch than Zen 3 did for Zen 4. Really lends more credibility to the MSRP cut for Zen 5 skus.
Personally I have the idea that 9950X will be $499.
I think those prices are too high. There would be no reason to keep high pricing a secret so close to launch, those prices won't meaningfully eat into the fire sale prices of Zen 4, like the $465 7950X3D, $310 7900X3D, etc.
I would think they're keeping the pricing a secret because it's low enough it will affect Zen 4 sales.
Intel is in such a weak position thanks to the current debacle, competitive pricing out the gate for the new gen would probably turn a lot of heads.
Even though Zen 4 X3D launched 5 months after Zen 4, they didn't change MSRP on any of the Zen 4 SKU's, only retailer discounts. I believe if AMD is going to launch Zen 5 X3D in September as rumored, they will not price up Zen 5 and price cut/aggressively discount only 2 months later. I think they're going to price the Zen 5 SKU's in their final place in the lineup around where the X3D SKU's will land.
If this is the case, 9950X will be priced at or below $600. I am going extremely optimistically with $499 and know that will be unlikely unless I can manifest it hard enough. I've got my copy of The Secret on my desk and I try to re-read parts of it every day.
Both the 7950X and 7950X3D have been frequently dipping to the mid 400's in the last few weeks. They just keep yoyo pricing it.If there is any way those prices are real, they will be so backordered I will never get one until I am old and dead. The 7950x is down to $522, and that less than that.
The latency of the link between the CPU CCDs and SoC with memory controllers should also be lower.LPDDR5x @ 8533 MHz with 256-bit interface is 273 GB/s.
Yes because then most "cheap" AMD users wouldn't want the extra cost being passed onto them. And the cost got driven high due to Apple.
Obviously just speculation, but I just can’t see the 9950X being anything less than $549. My guess is it’ll start out at $599 or $649. Just a hunch.Both the 7950X and 7950X3D have been frequently dipping to the mid 400's in the last few weeks. They just keep yoyo pricing it.
The delay does conveniently give them a bit more time to try and move old Zen 4 stock before the Zen 5 pricing is even announced, much less sales start.