The part that's sketchy to me is gaining that much from PBO. Recent AMD chips generally have not had a lot of OC headroom.
Oh wow. Thanks for posting. That single core score is considerably lower than what I would expect for the 5.4 boost clock. 7700X has same boost clock and gets ~2010. +17% IPC (claimed by AMD for R23) would put the score well into the 2300s. As it stands, vs CPUMonkeys 7600X 1976 ST score, this is only a 9.2% uplift.
Lotsa people cried about 95C when Zen4 released, so that's maybe why. Also, maybe N4X(P) is not tuned for longevity with high temperatures, who knows.f Zen 5 continues to scale perf very well up to 230W, why would that not be the default operation for this flagship SKU.
Yeah I hope they had the foresight to go for that market. The M- chips have made great inroads in scientific computing community for “budget” options that either require CPU compute or large datasets that wont fit in average GPU VRAMAnd is gaming the intended target or rather creative professionals that want some macbook with Windows? I mean I don't know and we haven't heard anything officially, but it would be a pity to let all this mem bandwidth go to waste
That should be it for MT. 7600X has ~15300. AMD claims 17% uplift in Blender, where ZEN5 has 23% IPC. R23 has 17% IPC, so uplift should be around 12% -> 17100He posted another! 2244 and 17037!
2026.With these performance numbers I might give AMD a try after the Phenom days. When are they going to move towards a active substrate ?
Dont' forget that Ryzen 9000 has lowered TDP for most of the models. All models below the 9950X basically default to what was the Eco mode before. Look at the right side of this slide:The part that's sketchy to me is gaining that much from PBO.
The most interesting addition is the CheckMate benchmark, which emphasizes the capabilities of your CPU's branch prediction unit through a multi-threaded approach. The utility leverages the AVX (Advanced Vector Extensions) set, particularly the AVX, AVX2, and AVX-512, to accelerate certain types of calculations. More importantly, CheckMate has brought in support for AMD's newest Ryzen AI 300 APUs as well, which is certainly impressive since it will allow for more extensive testing of the new mobile platform.
15% for the 9700X.Activating PBO does not help the 9950X very much, but the 9700X can gain the most.
Assuming this is just increasing TDP like it implies, that puts 9700X at ~28% faster than 7700X since the 7700X would see little to no gain just from increasing power.15% for the 9700X.
Yep, that's the other slide. They pretty much complement each other.15% for the 9700X.
New benchmark in latest AIDA64 and guess what we have from our best friend the ES user:
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PBO CO daily tune.
Possibly, because 7700X is the Zen 4 SKU that get the most in the inefficient part of the curve, even accounting 15W for the IOD the single CCD is still pushed at 115W, wich is more than the 7950X.Assuming this is just increasing TDP like it implies, that puts 9700X at ~28% faster than 7700X since the 7700X would see little to no gain just from increasing power.
Yep, that's the other slide. They pretty much complement each other.
Some interesting info from the Chinese shop owner who posted prices (sorry, link is to wccftech article)
"[...] With PBO, the Ryzen 7 9700X can beat the Ryzen 7 7800X3D [...]"
The part that's sketchy to me is gaining that much from PBO. Recent AMD chips generally have not had a lot of OC headroom.
This was not about absolute power consumption but in the context of co-developing Zen 5 for two different processes without letting the designs diverge too much from each other, to keep validation efforts in check.Indeed. However, AMD recently admitted in an interview (think it was Mike Clark himself) that it was a challenge keeping power consumption of Zen 5 down on 4nm. [...]
That's 28% faster in Blender with the 7700X at 142W PPT and the 9700X using PBO. That's +11% from 7700X@142W to 9700X@88W and +15% from activating PBO on the 9700X. Compare this with the 9950X which has 22% at the same 230W PPT and gains another 6% for a total +29% when activating PBO. This also means that the 9950X will then use more than 300W.that puts 9700X at ~28% faster than 7700X
I mean. I saw Cinebench 2024 ST increase on my 7950X just enabling EXPO and nothing else. I don't have a good explanation for that, either.Another strange rumor we've heard is that ST scores tend to increase with PBO turned on. In all previous Ryzen gens to date, simply turning PBO "On" (no curve optimizer, etc.) simply raises PPT and give you better MT perf, but almost always lowers ST perf. Take for example the 9600X above-- were the two different scores with PBO off vs PBO on? ST shouldnt have changed at all, or maybe even slightly decreased if you were to do that in previous gens.
Yeah, especially that pathetic CPU-z 12T score. +7% MT and +17% STNot too shabby for a 6 core i would say
this should be the pbo, 2130 is stock.put the score well into the 2300s.
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Since when did PBO improve ST performance?this should be the pbo, 2130 is stock.
Excuse me? What are you talking about? Pbo will not improve st and mt?Since when did PBO improve ST performance?