Can you open HwInfo or something during a run? For power draw.
Upload a video review and recoup your investment with millions of views!Performance mode seems to be the sweet spot after doing some runs. Full fan mode gains like 5 points.
Thx. So it's 15.5K@33W vs 13K @28-32.5W for 7840U. Not particularly great with 2 cores/4 threads advantage.HW Monitor shows 33.1W for the package and 28.2W for the CPU as max after a cinebench run.
Cool, so David Huangs numbers were right. What is the clock during the run with 33W? How hard are the 5c cores already gimping? I bet the normal ones are at 3.8 or something.P cores max at 5.05 and E cores max at 3.32
Eh, the only specific microarchitecture we'd even think about targeting would be the PS5's Zen 2. Potentially sizing a few specific arrays to fit neatly into the L2 during a hot loop, would probably be the extent of intentional targeting we would do these days. But just profiling the code on that CPU and then optimizing based on that profile will generally lead you to accidentally prefer that uarch slightly- you'll hit the problem cases that crop up for that chip, and maybe miss other ones that might be more of an issue on other systems.
He said 28W max CPU power, there s no average here, and the package in this case is eventually the whole device.Thx. So it's 15.5K@33W
My interpretation was 33W CPU Package 28W Core power.He said 28W max CPU power, there s no average here, and the package in this case is eventually the whole device.
My interpretation was 33W CPU Package 28W Core power.
The asus M16 is nice in that regard with how you can control PL1, PL2, and the fan curve without ever having to explicitly go into ur bios either.You don't do these things in BIOS on Laptops. Its quite normal for them to have everything locked down. Try Fn+F or something.
its not the rop SKU either.That s the case in DT but i noticed that for laptops it s sometime the package as a whole, that is, the whole laptop.
Other than this those numbers have all the characteristics of a chip that is somewhat overvolted to not only increase yields but foremost to guarantee an inconditional stability, that s more important for AMD than chasing even more perf/Watt advantage, they are already clearly in the lead so that s not as important as getting a good image.
Hey! Maybe try to install the latest Ryzen Master. It may let you lock a low all core freq from within Windows (reboot will be needed). Even 3GHz would be fine.I am not sure how to lock the frequency?
its not the rop SKU either.
Minor point, but at 17% IPC increase you'd only reduce the clock speed by 14.53%, (1 / 1.17).
Otherwise if you increased IPC by 100%, you'd have a very hard time getting similar performance if you reduced the clock speed by 100%.
Right but it should still have better efficency numbers, i explained above to which extent.
If IPC is increased by 17% you can reduce frequency by 1.17x and have the same throughput at same core count.
At 1.25x the core count you can reduce frequency by 1.25X at same throughput, so with these two parameters combined the 365 can have 1/(1.17 x 1.25) = 0.68x the frequency at same throughput, wich imply less than 0.5x the power, yet here it s about 0.65x, so that could mean a voltage that is 14% higher than the 7840U at a same frequency.
This can also mean that voltage is not that much increased but that Zen 5 uarchitectural efficency is something like 10% lower than Zen 4 and combined with a slightly higher voltage.
looking at the desktop Zen 5 leaks I don't think Zen 5 has much improved perf/watt in throughput.
but still, 7840U was the top silicon for the 15w -28w class so without testing halo SKU back to back t's hard to tell.. If the 370 and 365 were reduced core counts to differentiate themselves down the stack then you could probably rely on them being good quality silicon still, and assess them on a per core basis, but not so much when they're all 12 c parts (albeit with lower GPU CU on the 365) . they'll likely be both artificially limited in performance via boost clocks (st and NT) combined with higher yielding silicon with less favourable VF characteristics .
HW Monitor shows 33.1W for the package and 28.2W for the CPU as max after a cinebench run.
Performance mode seems to be the sweet spot after doing some runs. Full fan mode gains like 5 points.
P cores max at 5.05 and E cores max at 3.32
I am not sure how to lock the frequency?
Perhaps, but I would give Ryzen Master a shot too, being its an official AMD app. That or turn Core Performance Boost off in BIOS. But if those dont work, this might do the trick!Try this: Universal X86 UtilityUniversal x86 Tuning Utility
amdaputuningutility.com
And here is a video how to use it:
Zen 5 ipc in cb is only on par with raptor lake.
Ryzen master is not working for laptop APUs, I already tried It with my Phoenix laptop.Perhaps, but I would give Ryzen Master a shot too, being its an official AMD app. That or turn Core Performance Boost off in BIOS. But if those dont work, this might do the trick!