They should do fun graphs like Apple does, they might be crap but at least it’s honest about being crap upfront lol.God their marketing is awful, replace it with an angry vomiting poisonous frog already, at least it's an improvement.
Looking like a long reign for the 7800X3D gaming champ.
Other tests show web browser performance improvement. I guess they did figure out a way to target improved interpreter and JIT performance.
That April release would be hilarious seeing the current firmware state.Release dates were hilarious
Mmm they might release xx50 SKUs with higher TDP if Zen5 looks to bad compared to Intel.I would prefer it if they called it something like 963D or 96X3D. The 00 is superfluous for these single CCD parts since they never released any xx50 single CCD part.
There were rumours that V-cache in Ryzen 9000X3D is different.What would be the argument for 9800x3d not getting at least equal performance bump (from 9700x) as 7800x3d (from 7700x)?
It seems to me that 9800x3d will receive at least equal performance bump, and some things (lower power, lower temps) suggest that it is more likely that 9800x3d will not have the same clock speed regression as 7800x3d.
At this point my biggest worry is that AMD already hyped up Zen5 vcache a bit saying it had some “interesting” featuresWhat would be the argument for 9800x3d not getting at least equal performance bump (from 9700x) as 7800x3d (from 7700x)?
It seems to me that 9800x3d will receive at least equal performance bump, and some things (lower power, lower temps) suggest that it is more likely that 9800x3d will not have the same clock speed regression as 7800x3d.
Looking at the lower temps of Zen 5 compared to Zen 4, I bet that "interesting part" is just lower frequency gap between vanilla and x3d parts.At this point my biggest worry is that AMD already hyped up Zen5 vcache a bit saying it had some “interesting” features
Based on what we’ve seen so far of the core I’d expect it to have even more uplift than Zen4X3D vs Zen4, but if we apply the “reverse marketing lingo” filter, “interesting” doesn’t sound too good….
STX looks like a decent purchase for webdevs honestly. Improved battery life, good browser and node.js performance.In any case, this is it then. A 70mm², decent density, power efficiency oriented, productivity monster Zen 5 with fairly crappy gaming performance. That's the end result of our forever waiting.
Well, it's both good and completely meh. Server lads will absolutely buy it in infinity quantity, and I'm really eager to see if the microcode updates can somehow get better results out of their relatively poor performance.
The best thing about Zen 5 will be Turin. A true cloud chip.
I've been restraining from buying one of those tiny cheapo Zen 3 mini PCs for months despite the click finger itching so bad.STX looks like a decent purchase for webdevs honestly. Improved battery life, good browser and node.js performance.
Any info on how they ended up with that atrocious latency though? Someone pointed out that it's somehow worse than Zen freaking 2.I think and still do that STX Halo is the best thing to come out Zen5 family. Zen5 core is no longer stuck to dual channel but quad channel for client and yeah RAM is soldered but its fast RAM.
no Zen5C cores on STX halo? Its all P cores.Any info on how they ended up with that atrocious latency though? Someone pointed out that it's somehow worse than Zen freaking 2.
It is. The only thing in the entire lineup with a non-cope memory subsystem lolI think and still do that STX Halo is the best thing to come out Zen5 family. Zen5 core is no longer stuck to dual channel but quad channel for client and yeah RAM is soldered but its fast RAM.
Oh I read it as "STX Point", weird phrasing to say " is the best thing" when it hasn't come out yet. Nevermind then.no Zen5C cores on STX halo? Its all P cores.
sorry, I time travelled a bit there.Oh I read it as "STX Point", weird phrasing to say " is the best thing" when it hasn't come out yet. Nevermind then.
40% ahead of the present time.Truly the Zen 5 Hype Train and its legendary time travel abilities.
MinisForum has a brand new MiniPC using HawkPoint CPU, and adds some nice IO features.I've been restraining from buying one of those tiny cheapo Zen 3 mini PCs for months despite the click finger itching so bad.
6 Zen 3 cores, 32Go RAM, crappy quality but a lot better than a raspberry Pi, perfect for a home server.
My ultimate copium is that when Kraken will come out, 8 Z5 cores at low as heck power will be much better for web.
AMD, you better vindicate my copium to the max. Even on that Samsung lithography.
Any info on how they ended up with that atrocious latency though? Someone pointed out that it's somehow worse than Zen freaking 2.
Sure but it's the inter-CCX latency that is truly abysmal.Isn't it using LPRDDR? That isn't great latency wise.
It's almost like AMD has decided the non-3D is for productivity and the 3D is for gaming.....