People also underestimate the usefulness of AVX-512. While it is not the easiest to add in support for, it provides fantastic speedups for the relevant workloads. With Zen 4 and Zen 5 becoming mainstream, developers have more incentive to add support for it. Especially as Intel continues to falter.this depends on what applications you run. Again, it may not equal what AMD used. Example: ifs all but proven based on SOME benchmarks that the avx-512 performance is twice what it was on Zen 4. Most people don't care about it, but I am actually buying one JUST for that purpose. I want to see phoronix, and especially if they include good benchmarks on that.
People overestimate the usefulness of AVX-512. The vast, vast, majority of consumers are never going to interact with it or care. Also, Intel isn't faltering that much in the client market...People also underestimate the usefulness of AVX-512. While it is not the easiest to add in support for, it provides fantastic speedups for the relevant workloads. With Zen 4 and Zen 5 becoming mainstream, developers have more incentive to add support for it. Especially as Intel continues to falter.
Still, pretty mid testing. Deep dive? Bruh, this could be so much deeper. I mean, it is a good video in general, but again, there is so much more testing they could have done, not with just different applications, but digging deeper into the power curves, and what parts of the CPU consume more power.Gamers Nexus video addressing all the most common claims around “Reviewers do not know how to test”
I love how you have to keep changing the numbers and what node AMD uses in order to get the numbers to fit lmaoTSMC s N4P provide 28% better perf/watt than their regular N5 but it happen than Zen 4 use N5P wich has 11% better perf/Watt than the vanilla N5.
Hence the perf/Watt improvement at isofrequency brought by N4P is only 1.28/1.11 = 15.3% better perf/Watt or 5.7% better perf at isopower.
AMD: We’re Using an Optimized TSMC 5nm Process
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This thread should be renamed to "Zen 5 mental gymnastics"I love how you have to keep changing the numbers and what node AMD uses in order to get the numbers to fit lmao
lol and some people had the gall to question my assertion that this was a dumpster fire of a launch when it got pushed back a couple weeks ago. Now this? Only a hardcore fanbot would dare claim otherwise at this point. The 9700X, at least, should have been 105W TDP from the get go.
This thread should be renamed to "Zen 5 mental gymnastics"
I have started believing that the marketing team at AMD knows fully how incompetent they are, and are collectively lobbying to deny anyone with competence to enter the office, lest they all get fired.what a pathetic launch by AMD. Seriously, learn some marketing skills AMD.
You can do that? :-D
what a pathetic launch by AMD. Seriously, learn some marketing skills AMD.
People overestimate the usefulness of AVX-512. The vast, vast, majority of consumers are never going to interact with it or care. Also, Intel isn't faltering that much in the
Nah, they are saving that patch for Zen6 when marketing fails again.So if AMD is increasing the TDP of 9700X and 9600X with AGESA, does this mean that AGESA will also increase the 9950X performance to 1000$?
That magic AGESA will bring us back to the april launch of $1000 40% IPC 9950X.So if AMD is increasing the TDP of 9700X and 9600X with AGESA, does this mean that AGESA will also increase the 9950X performance to 1000$?
I love how you have to keep changing the numbers and what node AMD uses in order to get the numbers to fit lmao
Not really. People complain that game developers require AVX2 to run newest game [Alan Wake TLOU PC port iirc] even though the instruction set is already 10 years in the market. There is a lot of software that sticks to SSE because Intel misguided politics and artificial market fragmentation.With Zen 4 and Zen 5 becoming mainstream, developers have more incentive to add support for it. Especially as Intel continues to falter.
And we have Intel to thank for that. It's not that AVX512 is so bad, it's that Intel made it a nightmare with the fragmentation. It's like Apple would decide each M2, M2 Pro and M2 Ultra support different instruction sets... Actually Apple is in the best possible position for introducing new instruction sets, as at least through the system apps they control they can make immediate use of them.People overestimate the usefulness of AVX-512. The vast, vast, majority of consumers are never going to interact with it or care. Also, Intel isn't faltering that much in the client market...
It is completely Intel's fault. If they didn't segment it based on SKU, we might have more wider usage. AMD has proved that Intel's AVX-512 implementation is pathetic.People overestimate the usefulness of AVX-512. The vast, vast, majority of consumers are never going to interact with it or care. Also, Intel isn't faltering that much in the client market...