According to TomsHardware it's 29.5%. Good luck with waiting.The difference between 7700X and 7800X3D is ~18% according to CB . Let's wait for the benchmarks
Well it depends.
What we know so far: 16% PPC in mixed (nT/1T) workloads with basically no area penalty (the core itself is bigger, but the L3 is smaller, so it cancels out) and no clock regression in 1T at least. What we don't know is how much power it pulls. So it may very well end up a very successful core PPA-wise.
If you were expecting a chonker INT max go brrr core, then I guess so?
edit: it also seems like Z5 is one angry little FP shredder.
"At the end of the day, we give you more performance without increasing power, and at the end of the day, we give you more performance without increasing the heat. At the end of the day, we bought a non-X3D chip very close to an X3D chip when it comes to gaming,"
Someone should tell the guy they are not giving all that for free.
And if they were not giving it, "at the end of the day", why exactly should anyone consider buying it.
According to TomsHardware it's 29.5%. Good luck with waiting.
Im not sure why one would think that the non-x3d version Zen5 would beat the x3d version of Zen4?This is pretty bad.
Probably not. We're discussing an article from TH:I believe the guy was talking about single core performance
If hypothetically 9700x will be in striking distance (a few percent slower) from 7800X3D, then it would be a very decent result, isn't?Probably not. We're discussing an article from TH:
"AMD's Ryzen 9000 won't beat the previous-gen X3D models in gaming, but they'll be close — improved 3D V-Cache coming, too"
Depends on their definition of striking distance. And the price.If hypothetically 9700x will be in striking distance (a few percent slower) from 7800X3D, then it would be a very decent result, isn't?
Because someone said that online and everyone just ran with it like wildfire which isn't surprising these days. And then when it doesn't mean their expectation based on a rumor everyone's cry's foul.Im not sure why one would think that the non-x3d version Zen5 would beat the x3d version of Zen4?
I mean thats apples to oranges.
If a workload benefits from much larger cache, then w/o it its going to perform worse there is no magic to make that scenario change much unless you get much higher bandwidth through out the whole memory subsystem.
With the same memory and latency that proposition isnt going to change.
i'm upgrading to it from Zen 3 so its a win win anyway you slice it for me. So your mid is a gold mine for meZen 5 is mid at best
Productive first post.Zen 5 is mid at best
Zen 4 had the luxury of transitioning to DDR5 compared to 5800X3D running DDR4, though. So a chunk of performance came from faster memory.It is a little disappointing that the 9700X will lag the 7800X3D in gaming, even if it's just by single digits. When the 7700X launched it was a bit faster than the 5800X3D.
"It's encouraging to see that all three Zen 4 CPUs tested so far are faster than the 5800X3D, and that's not something we were expecting to find going into this testing." Link
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there are a couple benchmarks in that review where the v-cache chip does beat the objectively much better vanilla zen 4 cpus, cache does still matter more for some workloads7700X launched it was a bit faster than the 5800X3D.
Dang, they're already banned lol.lol better learn quick or he won't last long here.
probably posters from Wcctech. That place is the wild west and they think that applies to other forums.Dang, they're already banned lol.
I think we've all noticed, but there's been a lot of new accounts popping up this month due to Computex news. Many of whom seem to come in with a bias one way or another...
"At the end of the day, we give you more performance without increasing power, and at the end of the day, we give you more performance without increasing the heat. At the end of the day, we bought a non-X3D chip very close to an X3D chip when it comes to gaming,"
Someone should tell the guy they are not giving all that for free.
And if they were not giving it, "at the end of the day", why exactly should anyone consider buying it.
HWUB are a lot better at GPU reviewsWhen the 7700X launched it was a bit faster than the 5800X3D.
Are you going to throw up a benchmark when you get your hands on one of these? Would love to see the difference in DC.One thing nobody (almost nobody) else cares about. I want close to 50% avx-512 performance. For DC purposes.
You bet. It would be only on one of several projects. I do medical(WCG and Rosetta) and primegrid (the one that loves avx-512)Are you going to throw up a benchmark when you get your hands on one of these? Would love to see the difference in DC.
Because nobody (almost nobody) cares about avx-512, at least for us plebs anyway. What I care is the gaming and general performance uplift, which seems VERY disappointing so far unfortunately.One thing nobody (almost nobody) else cares about. I want close to 50% avx-512 performance. For DC purposes.
7600x:
$299 MSRP
$189 current;y at MicroCenter
7800x3d:
$449 MSRP
$319 currently at MicroCenter
Assuming 9700x MSRP is $299 and performance is close to $319 7900x3d, that would be quite acceptable. And assumption is that there will be some discounts on 9700x later in its lifetime.
Because nobody (almost nobody) cares about avx-512, at least for us plebs anyway. What I care is the gaming and general performance uplift, which seems VERY disappointing so far unfortunately.
Because nobody (almost nobody) cares about avx-512, at least for us plebs anyway. What I care is the gaming and general performance uplift, which seems VERY disappointing so far unfortunately.