The "Zen 4 >15% perf demo" was presented on May 23rd. The release was Sep 27th. That was a long gap.Perhaps this explains the unusually long gap between announcement and release date.
Yeah I only see 3 models for pre-order on Best Buy - Zenbook S16, Proart PX13, and Proart P16. All 3 slated for 7/15 with an upper spec P16 for 7/28.Strix may launch on the 15th, but how many laptops are there for pre-order? As usual, AMD just doesn't seem to get their gear into OEM laptops. Even Qualcomm did a better job.
If all this turns out to be true, it’s interesting to me both Zen 5 and Lion Cove were in development when Apple dropped the M bomb. And both AMD and Intel decided their mobile products needed bespoke versions of their cores with structures and functionality stripped out.The most interesting thing for me is that ZEN5 vs ZEN5 has more differences in terms of yArch than ZEN4 vs ZEN4c. Not a good move imo, they were so proud about the fact that ZEN4c is the same yArch, they had slides specifically for that. And now Strix has half the FPU without any official sign?
Yeah I only see 3 models for pre-order on Best Buy - Zenbook S16, Proart PX13, and Proart P16. All 3 slated for 7/15 with an upper spec P16 for 7/28.
Meanwhile there are >10 Snapdragon X Elite models, many of which I could pick up in store right now.
What if AMD shrunk the Bobcat core down to 5nm, and strapped 16 of them onto this bad boy? We could call them B-cores (short for blinkenlight cores).I'm not a member of that resistance group. 48T CPUs should be the bare minimum on desktop if you ask me. AMD can do SMT3 to get there if they are too cheap to add extra cores. Just look how beautiful thread action looks in Task Manager even when doing mundane stuff: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...m-cpu-market-stagnation.2616907/post-41214765
It's mesmerizing and I bought a 2nd monitor just to look at Task Manager blinkin' lights!
Jaguar had AVX anyway.Disclaimer, you may need to give up AVX compatibility to fulfil this dream
Make it Jaguar and it still has AVX.Disclaimer, you may need to give up AVX compatibility to fulfil this dream
Literally beat me by seconds 😁Jaguar had AVX anyway.
As long as still have near identical architecture, since you don't double Errata or optimisationsIt's not an issue I think. What they were proud of is having the ISA parity between performance and compact cores, that remains true.
Oops, my bad, I misread the "GPU" as "CPU". I was too caught up in the whole "STX Z5 is a cut-down GNR", so I automatically assumed that it was about the CPU L2.It would behoove you to read the post you're replying to before being unpleasant about it. The link doesn't specify GPU L2 anywhere.
No, but they usually talk about it on launch, so you gotta just wait a bit.Is the GPU L2 cache amount of Strix Point known?
As usual? It's not even out yet...Strix may launch on the 15th, but how many laptops are there for pre-order? As usual, AMD just doesn't seem to get their gear into OEM laptops. Even Qualcomm did a better job.
Hmm… so do we make of this? That the OEMs think Snapdragon X Elite will be better than AMD Zen5 for laptop use, or that Qualcomm did a better sales job, or that this is just the current state and we expect the AMD Zen5 share to grow? Or perhaps a mix of several reasons?Yeah I only see 3 models for pre-order on Best Buy - Zenbook S16, Proart PX13, and Proart P16. All 3 slated for 7/15 with an upper spec P16 for 7/28.
Meanwhile there are >10 Snapdragon X Elite models, many of which I could pick up in store right now.
I'd be amazed if it's still 2 MB. Strix Point didn't get the SLC and the memory speed is unchanged (7500).No, but they usually talk about it on launch, so you gotta just wait a bit.
RMB/PHX were like 2MB L2.
Unfortunately, AMD is targeting incremental improvements and saving on die space because there's NO competition!More like Strix Disappoint.
Or cluster decoding is not the best solution for a single thread. However, this is the best solution for hyper-threading (SMT), similar to the Gracemont-Skymont concept.AMD has some patents about using the dual 4-wide decoders for decoding a single thread, like *mont. Is the core actually capable of this, as in has anyone yet demonstrated this in action? If not, I wonder if it requires disabling SMT in bios, or if they found a bug in it and just disabled it for Zen5.
So this is why Zen7 is supposed to diverge in architecture, with different core architectures for Server vs Client.Or cluster decoding is not the best solution for a single thread. However, this is the best solution for hyper-threading (SMT), similar to the Gracemont-Skymont concept.
Epyc is a priority for AMD, so Zen 5 is also a project with more Epyc in mind.
I think the sensible conclusion is that you're comparing a product that hasn't launched yet to a product that has launched l, and maybe realise that's why you can get Snapdragon now and you can't get strix point.Hmm… so do we make of this? That the OEMs think Snapdragon X Elite will be better than AMD Zen5 for laptop use, or that Qualcomm did a better sales job, or that this is just the current state and we expect the AMD Zen5 share to grow? Or perhaps a mix of several reasons?