Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

[DisEnchantment]

Speculate at will

 

[PJVol]

30/25 = 20% difference
There is your effiency difference at the lower end of the power scale

... my 5800X3D's I/O die just became 32% more efficient (in five minutes)

Come on guys...don't blindly trust SVI telemetry as some MB vendors were once caught cheating with the Iout gain/bias for the Vdd VRM loop.

 

[igor_kavinski]

How about a competition? The one who guesses the closest scores for CBR23 for 120w PPT, 230w PPT and unlimited PPT, gets a free CPU benchmark of their choice (terms and conditions apply). Voting stops after 60w result is posted.

Terms and conditions: Nothing that requires uploading to an online database or needs an online profile to run.

And the competition begins with the first screenshot from the super awesome ES user:

 

[CouncilorIrissa]

How about a competition? The one who guesses the closest scores for CBR23 for 120w PPT, 230w PPT and unlimited PPT, gets a free CPU benchmark of their choice (terms and conditions apply). Voting stops after 60w result is posted.

Terms and conditions: Nothing that requires uploading to an online database or needs an online profile to run.

And the competition begins with the first screenshot from the super awesome ES user:

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CBR24 would be a much better bench.

 

[static shock]

The technical level of the discussions here is pretty good.
Too bad that few men here derail the thread with flamebaits.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Too bad that few men here derail the thread with flamebaits.

Men? Some of here aren't even 18!

 

[static shock]

What bothers some posters there about AMD creating a core(plus L2) faster than Arrow Lake's Lion Cove core(plus L2 of course)?

 

[FlameTail]

Men? Some of here aren't even 18!

and some aren't even humans!

 

[static shock]

Golden/Raptor Cove rocks(yeah i'm a CPU enthusiast with some decent knowledge about CPU construction), what hurts their image is the absurd clocks and power level that Intel pushes them in order to blast(with help of Gracemont cores) any other Desktop CPU.

 

[gaav87]

How about a competition? The one who guesses the closest scores for

120W : 43184,7
230W : 44990,01
Unlimited : 46339,7103

 

[static shock]

The level of robustness/wideness Zen5 Core is between Raptor Cove and Lion Cove.

 

[Hitman928]

Golden/Raptor Cove rocks(yeah i'm a CPU enthusiast with some decent knowledge about CPU construction), what hurts their image is the absurd clocks and power level that Intel pushes them in order to blast(with help of Gracemont cores) any other Desktop CPU.

Post in the wrong thread?

 

[static shock]

The original target level of IPC over Zen4 uplift was 30 to 40%.

 

[static shock]

Post in the wrong thread?

Read the seuqent and all other posts in the page in order to understand about what i'm talking about.

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

How about a competition? The one who guesses the closest scores for CBR23 for 120w PPT, 230w PPT and unlimited PPT, gets a free CPU benchmark of their choice (terms and conditions apply). Voting stops after 60w result is posted.

Terms and conditions: Nothing that requires uploading to an online database or needs an online profile to run.

And the competition begins with the first screenshot from the super awesome ES user:

View attachment 103040

120W: 39,500
230W: 45,000
Unlimited: 46,500

 

[Hitman928]

The original target level of IPC over Zen4 uplift was 30 to 40%.

We have good evidence to the contrary.

Read the seuqent and all other posts in the page in order to understand about what i'm talking about.

Maybe keep the relevant thoughts to a single post instead? Not positive, but pretty sure rapid fire posting like that is frowned upon by the moderators.

 

[static shock]

Not positive, but pretty sure rapid fire posting like that is frowned upon by the moderators.

This is what happens when you have a ton of confidential info and want to spread it out the good news for everyone.

 

[Hitman928]

This is what happens when you have a ton of confidential info and want to spread it out the good news for everyone.

That makes no sense, especially given the content of your posts.

 

[static shock]

We have good evidence to the contrary.

No. The original Zen4 i read years before in a Techpowerup news space that it was supposed to bring 29% more IPC over Zen3. That 29% transformated to a monstruous percent that i can't tell anyone because i want to learn more about CPUs(my speciallity) discussing CPUs with experts here.

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

No. The original Zen4 i read years before in a Techpowerup news space that it was supposed to bring 29% more IPC over Zen3. That 29% transformated to a monstruous percent that i can't tell anyone because i want to learn more about CPUs(my speciallity) discussing CPUs with experts here.

None of this is true.

 

[static shock]

None of this is true.

Prove it then.

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

Prove it then.

Nah, I don't feel like taking the burden of proof off your shoulders today.

 

[Hitman928]

Prove it then.

Hitchens's razor. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

 

[static shock]

That's the problem. I know the mind-blowing performance that AMD is hiding for someone from somehow reason from whoever. I got a info that the scary fast performance Zen core+L2 iteration is faster than both A17 and Lion cove(that is a marvel but second to Skymont) but i not interested to prove it to anyone more once the numbers is reallly mindblowing and next to unbelieveable i'm not caring anymore about it. Just don't want that Zen5 on E-chipsets Guzzle power to reach next to Meteor Lake performance. Ryzen is well known to be a very efficient family of processors and losing this titlle will make Ryzen a no-go.

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

That's the problem. I know the mind-blowing performance that AMD is hiding for someone from somehow reason from whoever. I got a info that the scary fast performance Zen core+L2 iteration is faster than both A17 and Lion cove(that is a marvel but second to Skymont) but i not interested to prove it to anyone more once the numbers is reallly mindblowing and next to unbelieveable i'm not caring anymore about it. Just don't want that Zen5 on E-chipsets Guzzle power to reach next to Meteor Lake performance. Ryzen is well known to be a very efficient family of processors and losing this titlle will make Ryzen a no-go.

All I see here is a bunch of hot air.

Meanwhile, Zen 4 closeout is getting even hotter. $470 7950X3D at Amazon for prime members. IIRC this has been an even hotter fire sale leading to the launch than Zen 3 did for Zen 4. Really lends more credibility to the MSRP cut for Zen 5 skus.

Personally I have the idea that 9950X will be $499.

 

[static shock]

Personally I have the idea that 9950X will be $499.

Here is what i agree with you. Overpricing outdated performance solding at a premuium price is ugly as hell.


I don't want a 105W 9700X, this is about making the electrical bill be a volcano, just because 65W is supercool to Zen builders. In USA and China( the two countries that buy Ryzen the most) the energy is cheap, but in Brazil and Russia(another two countries that buy Ryzen the most, AMD sold tens of thousands 65W R7 1700 in a Xmas berserk sale in just one store) the energy is pricefull.
R7 9700x is already friendly for overclock 65W please AMD!