Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

[DisEnchantment]

Speculate at will

 

[igor_kavinski]

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[Abwx]

Someone got 22.2K MT with a Strix 370, per @HXL@9550pro

No power consumption figures shown.

pic.twitter.com/BXsKxYfd1a

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At first glance that s at 45W.

 

[jdubs03]

A 7945HX is for a different market compared to a Ryzen 370AI. It has (can have) different power envelope, it is a desktop derivative with 16 cores explicitely dedicated to gaming desktop replacement laptops. Its succesor will be the Fire Range lineup.
370AI in an all-purpose mobile APU aimed at the same market of the 8945H/HS .

I was just going by their quoted TDP values, and the HX identifier. Seems like it’d be fair to compare top HX SKUs from 7000 vs 9000.

Otherwise what would be the correct comparison? I don’t see anything else in their lineup that would be a better match.

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

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40W: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ranite-ridge-ryzen-9000.2607350/post-41252027
60W: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ranite-ridge-ryzen-9000.2607350/post-41252719
80W: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ranite-ridge-ryzen-9000.2607350/post-41253719
100W: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ranite-ridge-ryzen-9000.2607350/post-41254064
120W: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ranite-ridge-ryzen-9000.2607350/post-41254436

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Alright, alright fine I'll do the runs today but only if you put them into that fancy graph

 

[igor_kavinski]

Alright, alright fine I'll do the runs today but only if you put them into that fancy graph

I'll try my best

Do ones for 253W and Unlimited too.

 

[Malachijtjfjf]

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40W: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ranite-ridge-ryzen-9000.2607350/post-41252027
60W: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ranite-ridge-ryzen-9000.2607350/post-41252719
80W: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ranite-ridge-ryzen-9000.2607350/post-41253719
100W: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ranite-ridge-ryzen-9000.2607350/post-41254064
120W: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ranite-ridge-ryzen-9000.2607350/post-41254436

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Pbo+co?

 

[igor_kavinski]

Pbo+co?

Nope

 

[SarahKerrigan]

I was just going by their quoted TDP values, and the HX identifier. Seems like it’d be fair to compare top HX SKUs from 7000 vs 9000.

Otherwise what would be the correct comparison? I don’t see anything else in their lineup that would be a better match.

Igor is correct. The correct comparison for Strix is Phoenix or Hawk Point.

 

[gaav87]

HOLY SH*ET. How is this thing under 60c ??????

 

[Malachijtjfjf]

HOLY SH*ET. How is this thing under 60c ??????

Custom Waterloop?

 

[CouncilorIrissa]

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40W: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ranite-ridge-ryzen-9000.2607350/post-41252027
60W: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ranite-ridge-ryzen-9000.2607350/post-41252719
80W: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ranite-ridge-ryzen-9000.2607350/post-41253719
100W: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ranite-ridge-ryzen-9000.2607350/post-41254064
120W: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ranite-ridge-ryzen-9000.2607350/post-41254436

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So 170-180W PPT seems like a sweet spot, for this ES anyway (I assume retail units will have a slightly different v/f curve)

 

[Hitman928]

Could also refer to the boost and/or V/F curves.

 

[gaav87]

Custom Waterloop?

27c delta vs 20c chiller setup ???

 

[igor_kavinski]

Igor is correct. The correct comparison for Strix is Phoenix or Hawk Point.

Igor is not involved. You mean @leoneazzurro

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[StefanR5R]

HOLY SH*ET. How is this thing under 60c ??????

Custom Waterloop?

Remember:

• The thermal conductivity was improved. (Of the chip? Of the interface from chip to heatspreader? Of the heatspreader? AMD didn't elaborate.)¹
• The placement of on-chip temperature sensors has been changed.²
• The thermal management algorithms have been changed.²

AMD did this based on lessons about hotspots learned from previous chip generations.²

¹) source: AnandTech's LA Tech Day report
²) source: Computerbase's LA Tech Day report (in German)

 

[jdubs03]

Igor is correct. The correct comparison for Strix is Phoenix or Hawk Point.

Ah indeed, I stand corrected.

 

[gaav87]

Remember:

• The thermal conductivity was improved. (Of the chip? Of the interface from chip to heatspreader? Of the heatspreader? AMD didn't elaborate.)¹
• The placement of on-chip temperature sensors has been changed.²
• The thermal management algorithms have been changed.²

AMD did this based on lessons about hotspots learned from previous chip generations.²

¹) source: AnandTech's tech day report
²) source: Computerbase's tech day report (in German)

I already know all of this i was not asking for an explenation. Im still in shock under 60c not delided with my jaw on the floor while driving 130km/h and typing with 1hand

 

[SarahKerrigan]

Igor is not involved. You mean @leoneazzurro

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Crap! This is what I get for posting right after waking up.

Well, take the credit, even undeserved.

 

[MarkPost]

For comparison sake 13900K can do 30500 at 100W PL2.

For clarification sake: a comparison with a more than likely unstable CPU due to an extreme undervolting or extreme low AC / DC loadline values (I know it because I own a 13900k), is totally useless.

 

[leoneazzurro]

I was just going by their quoted TDP values, and the HX identifier. Seems like it’d be fair to compare top HX SKUs from 7000 vs 9000.

Otherwise what would be the correct comparison? I don’t see anything else in their lineup that would be a better match.

Strix Point compared to Phoenix (8945H) also because they are the top monolithic die of their respective generations, and because they both include a large integrated GPU.
Dragon Range (7945HX) to Fire Range (9945HX if they will keep the same naming) being both desktop derivatives which rely on an external dGPU.

 

[StinkyPinky]

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40W: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ranite-ridge-ryzen-9000.2607350/post-41252027
60W: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ranite-ridge-ryzen-9000.2607350/post-41252719
80W: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ranite-ridge-ryzen-9000.2607350/post-41253719
100W: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ranite-ridge-ryzen-9000.2607350/post-41254064
120W: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ranite-ridge-ryzen-9000.2607350/post-41254436

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Reasonable gains. Nothing staggering though. Time for a 20 core, AMD.

 

[Philste]

27c delta vs 20c chiller setup ???

Yeah, also the leaked numbers from the AMD event were 42k stock and 44k PBO. No way this ES does 46k. Something is off.

• The thermal conductivity was improved. (Of the chip? Of the interface from chip to heatspreader? Of the heatspreader? AMD didn't elaborate.)¹
• The placement of on-chip temperature sensors has been changed.²
• The thermal management algorithms have been changed.²

I know AMD says it is better, but 7950X ran at 95° pretty much everywhere. There's no way we are sitting at 60° now with 9950X. Also the numbers are higher than the leaked PBO ones.

 

[CouncilorIrissa]

I know AMD says it is better, but 7950X ran at 95° pretty much everywhere. There's no way we are sitting at 60° now with 9950X. Also the numbers are higher than the leaked PBO ones.

Hassan (yeah I know, I know) did allude to GNR being unusually cool in one of his tweets.

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

Hassan (yeah I know, I know) did allude to GNR being unusually cool in one of his tweets.

I have no doubt that's based on the temps from this very thread.

 

[Josh128]

I have no doubt that's based on the temps from this very thread.

I think he tweeted that before Igor started leaking here.