Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

[DisEnchantment]

Speculate at will

 

[Abwx]

It’s stock. AMD did a live overclocking demonstration and that is the score they got at stock.

They said that it was about what could be obtained at stock but the chip was under LN2 when they got this number.

Looking at the 55046 pts score at 6.375Ghz then those 42k were performed at 4.86GHz, beside the alleged 7 Zip 214,113 score is only 3.83% better than the 7950X, wich lead me to think that those numbers are not what we ll see in reviews.

The 7950X 7 Zip score can be found here, it s 206,214 :

Intel Core i9-14900KS im Test: Anwendungs-Benchmarks, Leistungsaufnahme & Temperatur

Intel Core i9-14900KS im Test: Anwendungs-Benchmarks, Leistungsaufnahme & Temperatur / Testsystem und Testmethodik für Anwendungen

www.computerbase.de

 

[CouncilorIrissa]

TechTechPotato is doing a livestream discussing Zen5 architecture:

Dr. Ian Cutress and George Cozma (Chips&Cheese).

Ian said that Zen 5c would see a much smaller drop in frequencies compared to what Z4c had relative to the classic cores.
Interesting.

 

[Joe NYC]

Ian said that Zen 5c would see a much smaller drop in frequencies compared to what Z4c had relative to the classic cores.
Interesting.

Zen 5c will (apparently) be on N3e, vs. N4p for Zen 5, which may have something to do with that.

BTW, Zen 4 -> Zen 4c was also a slight node improvement, from N5 -> N4

 

[Det0x]

in other news

We appreciate the excitement around Ryzen 9000 series processors. During final checks, we found the initial production units that were shipped to our channel partners did not meet our full quality expectations. Out of an abundance of caution and to maintain the highest quality experiences for every Ryzen user, we are working with our channel partners to replace the initial production units with fresh units.

As a result, there will be a short delay in retail availability. The Ryzen 7 9700X and Ryzen 5 9600X processors will now go on sale on August 8th and the Ryzen 9 9950X and Ryzen 9 9900X processors will go on sale on August 15th. We pride ourselves in providing a high-quality experience for every Ryzen user, and we look forward to our fans having a great experience with the new Ryzen 9000 series.

AMD PR

 

[inf64]

Wow what a clusterf** . Good news is that it seems the parts they shipped for reviews (and into retail channel) had an unknown issue that will be fixed (maybe it explains the odd performance numbers some reviewers saw).

 

[lucasworais]

in other news

WTF

 

[Saylick]

in other news

*dons tin foil hat*
Is this because Intel said they would release their microcode update also on August 15th... *rubs chin*

 

[StinkyPinky]

I wonder if Youtubers like GamersNexus etc noticed a problem and let AMD know? Either way, better now than a full recall later. It's just two weeks, no lifes will be lost.

 

[CakeMonster]

I love that Intel conspiracy theory

But it seriously sucks, I was so ready to build and I have basically promised my current CPU to someone else soon as well...

And the leaks, there's no way things won't leak in two more weeks if people already have the CPU.

 

[lucasworais]

+32% IPC Zen5 on August 15th!!

 

[Abwx]

That s 8 and 15 days delay , depending of the SKU :

As a result, there will be a short delay in retail availability. The Ryzen 7 9700X and Ryzen 5 9600X processors will now go on sale on August 8th and the Ryzen 9 9950X and Ryzen 9 9900X processors will go on sale on August 15th.

AMD Ryzen 9000: Verkaufsstart aufgrund von Qualitätsproblemen verschoben

Der Zeitplan war am Ende zu eng, nun verschiebt AMD den Start von Ryzen 9000 aufgrund von Qualitätsproblemen auf Mitte August.

www.computerbase.de

 

[CouncilorIrissa]

There's your answer for the lack of pricing.

 

[inf64]

+32% IPC Zen5 on August 15th!!

I was waiting for this comment lol

 

[Jayzen]

Man, this has just been a giant cluster....excrement, hasn't it?

 

[CouncilorIrissa]

Zen 5c will (apparently) be on N3e, vs. N4p for Zen 5, which may have something to do with that.

BTW, Zen 4 -> Zen 4c was also a slight node improvement, from N5 -> N4

Strix uses N4P and has 8 dense cores.

 

[poke01]

+32% IPC Zen5 on August 15th!!

Pls stop

 

[Joe NYC]

Strix uses N4P and has 8 dense cores.

I forgot about those. We will see how high the clock in the notebooks.

 

[poke01]

My decision to get the 7700x is looking increasingly better every day. What a cluster fudge of a launch.

 

[CouncilorIrissa]

Pls stop

The 32% meme propelled this thread to 662 pages. It's not something that you erase at this point

 

[Panino Manino]

Oh, so it does look like I have reason to be skeptical and disappointed with Zen 5.

*dons tin foil hat*
Is this because Intel said they would release their microcode update also on August 15th... *rubs chin*

Only means AMD isn't confident it can comfortably beat the competition without gimping.

 

[desrever]

Pretty last minute delay. Sounds kind of ominous.

 

[poke01]

I wonder if Youtubers like GamersNexus etc noticed a problem and let AMD know? Either way, better now than a full recall later. It's just two weeks, no lifes will be lost.

I’m gonna be honest that should up to AMD to test, find and fix. If an YouTuber found an issue and let them AMD know what does that make of AMD’s QA team? Incompetent?

 

[poke01]

The 32% meme propelled this thread to 662 pages. It's not something that you erase at this point

I know I been there, it’s been beaten so much at this point it’s annoying.

 

[gdansk]

I’m gonna be honest that should up to AMD to test, find and fix. If an YouTuber found an issue and let them AMD know what does that make of AMD’s QA team? Incompetent?

Well... if they catch it before launch they're about 640 days ahead of the x64 competition.

But I wonder what they weren't testing previously.

 

[poke01]

Well... if they catch it before launch they're about 640 days ahead of the x64 competition.

oh you mean Intel. That’s a low bar.