Meh. Computerbase: 370@33W is 18% faster than 8945HS@37W. With 50% more Cores/Threads. iGPU is bugges af and Clocks below 2.5GHz, only 10-15% uplift in steel nomad light.
No? That's just massive cherrypicking. If you run Phoenix that much out of sweetspot, it will probably lose to Rembrandt@35W, while being a full node ahead.As fast at 33W than the 8945HS at 75W, that s the number to consider.
Which is quite bad for 50% more cores/threads.Beside 18% faster at 33W than the 8945HS@37W mean 24% faster than the 8945HS@33W.
No? That's just massive cherrypicking. If you run Phoenix that much out of sweetspot, it will probably lose to Rembrandt@35W, while being a full node ahead.
Which is quite bad for 50% more cores/threads.
You can do that, but it still doesn't gell you anything on the archs efficiency.That s the other way around, chips should be compared at isoperf,
Of course Hawk Point is competition. These Strix devices nearly cost double compared to Hawk Point ones. All for 20% CPU and 15% GPU Performance and that stupid NPU.because the competion is Intel, not Hawk Point.
That's just the usual AMD early adopter tax. These will get discounted in a mere few months IF demand doesn't outstrip supply.These Strix devices nearly cost double compared to Hawk Point ones. All for 20% CPU and 15% GPU Performance and that stupid NPU.
Months ago we said Strix will be a new Performance Tier and Kraken will be the true Phoenix successor? What do we say now. Strix is barely a normal generational uplift to Phoenix and Kraken is set to be destroyed.That's just the usual AMD early adopter tax. These will get discounted in a mere few months.
When taking the geometric mean of the 100+ benchmarks run for this launch day article, the Ryzen AI 0 HX 370 was overall about 10% faster than the Ryzen 7 7840HS and about 18% faster than the Ryzen 7 7840U... Not bad, considering those prior Zen 4 parts were all Zen 4 full fat cores compared to the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 having four Zen 5 cores and eight Zen 5C cores. But across a variety of real-world workloads especially among creator workloads and more, this Strix Point laptop was delivering great uplift. The Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 also came in 43% faster than the current Intel competition with the Core Ultra 7 155H "Meteor Lake" processor.
Where things got really interesting with the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 was the power efficiency of this Zen 5 laptop SoC. Across the span of all the benchmarks, the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 SoC was pulling about 20.4 Watts with a peak of 34.2 Watts.... Meanwhile the Ryzen 7 7840HS had an average of 35 Watts and a peak of 60 Watts. The Ryzen 7 7840U had a 27 Watt average and a peak of 51 Watts. The Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 came out faster than those parts while consuming significantly less power. This Zen 5 power efficiency is very exciting and should carry over for desktop and server parts too. Meanwhile the Core Ultra 7 155H was consuming 29.6 Watts on average with a peak of 65 Watts.
Mixed feelings about Anandtech review.
ST performance is missing, IMO.
At least RDNA 3.5 really seems to be a real improvement.
Because there is nothing to test it in. There's no reason for these NPUs right now.yet I find exactly zero benchmark results that use said NPU. Did somebody find anything where the NPU was actually tested?
Yeah but not really ready for usage under linux until later this year unfortunately...Seriously impressive efficiency gains gen over gen.
Another item to be aware of is the heterogeneous core topology handling. AMD engineers have been working on AMD P-State patches for heterogeneous core topology CPUs but as of writing the patches haven't yet been upstreamed into the mainline Linux kernel. These patches should help with better placement of processes onto the Zen 5 cores rather than Zen 5C. But as these patches weren't picked up for the Linux 6.11 merge window, unless they end up being submitted as a "fix" for Linux 6.11, that means they won't be merged until at least the Linux 6.12 kernel cycle. Linux 6.12's merge window will be in September while that stable kernel won't be out until near the end of 2024.
Because there is nothing to test it in. There's no reason for these NPUs right now.
Yeah, but then that's a complete fumble on AMD's side. Pushing AI in every single presentation and then having nothing to show on release. As usual, they did everything for Microsoft only for Redmond to completely ignore them regarding CoPilot+ support. But it would have been nice to at least work together with the developers of the Procyon suite to get XDNA2 support on launch day.There's no reason for these NPUs right now.
Geez I wish they would’ve used the 7940HS too. Would be nice to compare that as the Anandtech review had. Computerbase had 8945HS. Need a spreadsheet to do a proper comparison.Phoronix:
Seriously impressive efficiency gains gen over gen.
I think PX13 goes up to 54 (?) W. There is a datapoint in Just Josh's review.If you want to know how STX performs with higher power, you can go to the Zenbook review and look for the Asus Proart numbers. The review isn't up yet, but they have the numbers in the Zenbook charts. Not sure what the power consumption in the Proart is though.
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