Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

[DisEnchantment]

Speculate at will

 

[gaav87]

So a work-in-progress basically.
Should've delayed to september.

Low gaming uplift is expected given low integer throughput gains.

Or at least to gamescon. Then tease the new boards and maybe some rdna4 rumor

 

[cebri1]

Pretty good overall results imo. Really nice ppw improvement.

 

[MS_AT]

First review of 9700x
TLDR: Slower then 7800x3d and 14th gen in gaming. Beta asrock bios. Wierd 4.5ghz all core in cinebench. AIO Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360. temp 61°C in cinebench ppt~88w
After unlocking PBO ppt:150w R23 results +23%. Also some ipc test 4.5ghz vs 4.5ghz. Enjoy.

AMD nie chciało, bym sprawdził Ryzena 7 9700X… i tak to zrobiłem! Czy lepiej kupić poprzednią generację lub poczekać na modele X3D? - 3D-INFO.PL

Sprawdziłem Ryzen 7 9700X? Jak wypada w testach i czy warto go kupić na te pytania znajdziecie odpowiedź w naszej recenzji.

3d-info.pl

Italian guy was better, he got at least few days of fame, this one will have only an hour

 

[In2Photos]

I thought they were coming out tomorrow. I still don't know why they are so afraid of independent reviews. Allow consumers 3-4 days to go over several outlets.

Or, you could wait a couple of days before purchasing.

 

[CouncilorIrissa]

So my final guess before embargo drops is that this is a skip generation for most people, unless you're doing something FP-intensive (CPU rendering for some reason?). Pretty meh overall.

 

[lucasworais]

Also, for a good share of enthusiasts, Apple silicon is completely irrelevant. If you can't buy the chip, put it on a board and combine it with a high-end graphics card, then it might just as well not exist.

You can’t do that with Strix or LNL either

 

[blackangus]

Why would this be a skip gen, unless you already had a 7000 series ?

 

[CouncilorIrissa]

Why would this be a skip gen, unless you already had a 7000 series ?

You'd be better off picking up discounted 7000 series.

 

[CouncilorIrissa]

LOL

 

[Gideon]

OOOF. Havent seen such reviews in a while

And 0 improvement in the memory controller for higher clocks (according to HW Unboxed)

 

[blackangus]

You'd be better off picking up discounted

I dunno better power efficiency, better performance sku vs sku.... will depend on the discounts you get on a 7k.

 

[CouncilorIrissa]

I dunno better power efficiency, better performance sku vs sku.... will depend on the discounts you get on a 7k.

Performance gains are non-existent. lol

 

[ErichZannMusician]

I intended to get the 9950X, disable SMT and compare it with the Ultra 9 285K with P-cores disabled at same Package Power/PPT.

Thanks AMD for saving my money!

 

[Ghostsonplanets]

So my final guess before embargo drops is that this is a skip generation for most people, unless you're doing something FP-intensive (CPU rendering for some reason?). Pretty meh overall.

Gimme the lotto numbers lol

 

[Rheingold]

Videocardz is good for providing links to numerous reviews once more:
AMD Ryzen 7 9700X and Ryzen 5 9600X Review Roundup

 

[In2Photos]

Performance gains are non-existent. lol

TDP (PPT) was reduced. So you're getting the same performance at a lower power level. If you increase the power level to the same settings as 7000 series you will see gains. Is it enough to justify the price difference? Only each user can answer that.

 

[cebri1]

Pretty good overall results imo. Really nice ppw improvement.

taking it back. Apart from some synthetic benchmarks... it's disappointing to say the least.

 

[CouncilorIrissa]

Gimme the lotto numbers lol

Nah, meh is overselling it.
It's DOA.

 

[lucasworais]

LOL

Gaming performance is the same or even slower than Zen 4 LOL
Why even release this REDACTED

Edit: productivity gains are basically non existent too 💀

 

[ErichZannMusician]

GN Should have re-used their Zen 1 review thumbnail - i7 in productivity, i5 in gaming.

 

[Philste]

So basically it looks ok compared to previous gen X-SKUs, because ist more efficient. But if you compare it to real predecessors, it's complete garbage. Like 10% more efficient, 15% faster in Applications and barely faster in Gaming.

 

[yottabit]

Any English-language written reviews out yet or is everything YouTube videos now?

 

[Timorous]

Unless AMD double the v-cache on the 9800X3D I don't see that being better than the 7800X3D with these results, maybe a few% if it can hold higher clocks relative to the 9700X than the 7800X3D manages relative to the 7700X.

For gaming this is just really poor.

 

[GTracing]

Any English-language written reviews out yet or is everything YouTube videos now?

Tech power up has their review up https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9700x/

 

[TwistedAndy]

It looks like the hype train has crashed. We've never seen that, and here it comes again

From my perspective, Zen 5 looks fine, especially on mobile devices. I hope we will get the X3D variants soon.