"Leapfrogging design teams" - AMD should check their payrolls to see if some of them haven't leapfrogged out of the company.Amazing 40% IPC gain of the most radical Zen design developed with all that Zen $$$ by the brightest minds under no financial or competitive pressure.
No reminiscence of good old AMD "new cores" - that old AMD is long gone. LOL
Oh, it gets so much worse than that when you take the increase in core area into account.So basically it looks ok compared to previous gen X-SKUs, because ist more efficient. But if you compare it to real predecessors, it's complete garbage. Like 10% more efficient, 15% faster in Applications and barely faster in Gaming.
Turns out it really is a "bulldozer moment" somewhat.
Years of expectation, huge changes to the architecture, negative IPC slower than previous gen, only performs well under specific right circumstances (at least power is good), gives time to the competition to breath and strike back with call.
Make me fear that Zen 6 and Zen 7 will be Piledrivers and Steamrollers.
These are linked"Leapfrogging design teams" - AMD should check their payrolls to see if some of them haven't leapfrogged out of the company.
Zen 6 likely will, Zen 7 is a bit of an unknown given that it's developed by a different team.Turns out it really is a "bulldozer moment" somewhat.
Years of expectation, huge changes to the architecture, negative IPC slower than previous gen, only performs well under specific right circumstances (at least power is good), gives time to the competition to breath and strike back with calm.
Make me fear that Zen 6 and Zen 7 will be Piledrivers and Steamrollers.
Zen 5% is real.Turns out it really is a "bulldozer moment" somewhat.
Years of expectation, huge changes to the architecture, negative IPC slower than previous gen, only performs well under specific right circumstances (at least power is good), gives time to the competition to breath and strike back with calm.
Make me fear that Zen 6 and Zen 7 will be Piledrivers and Steamrollers.
TDP (PPT) was reduced. So you're getting the same performance at a lower power level. If you increase the power level to the same settings as 7000 series you will see gains. Is it enough to justify the price difference? Only each user can answer that.
Unironically great uplift in browsers, what the hell.Zen 5% is real.
Btw on Linux it is a different story (just like with Bulldozer): https://www.phoronix.com/review/ryzen-9600x-9700x
It's flipping more rapidlyZen 6 likely will, Zen 7 is a bit of an unknown given that it's developed by a different team.
The thing is, this type of information won't be available in most reviews today. We'll have to wait for the more in depth stuff in the weeks to come. But the naysayers will have already poo-pooed the CPUs by then.With these SKUs at stock (9600X, 9700X and 9900X), you'll have only a little better perfomance, but with a lot less power consumption. If you want to see good gains, crank up PPT.
Looks very much like s server first, server second, and server third design!Zen 5% is real.
Btw on Linux it is a different story (just like with Bulldozer): https://www.phoronix.com/review/ryzen-9600x-9700x
The first ones who poo-pooed this CPU were AMD. (at least from a marketing and launch window PoV)But the naysayers will have already poo-pooed the CPUs by then.
Negligible gains, yeah. In some cases, it translates to 1 FPS gain.In Techpowerup review the 9600X at least seems to more consistently outperform 7600X in games (but the overall uplift remains quite similar ~4%
AMD Ryzen 5 9600X Review - The Best Sub-$300 Gaming CPU
The AMD Ryzen 5 9600X excels in energy efficiency and single-threaded performance. It offers great FPS for gamers and solid application performance. Our review confirms: at just $280, the 9600X is a compelling option against the pricier 7800X3D.www.techpowerup.com
Lmao.
They go to another school, in CanadaLmao.
Man, I wish I could see the numbers these guys took these gains from.
Deservedly so. 2 years between CPUs and a brand new core for non-existent gains.The thing is, this type of information won't be available in most reviews today. We'll have to wait for the more in depth stuff in the weeks to come. But the naysayers will have already poo-pooed the CPUs by then.