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jpiniero

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To be fair, gaming is 100% what drives DIY sales. But DIY is only a small portion of the desktop volume.

Most desktop volume is Corpos who just prefer the form factor over laptops. It's not even cheaper these days.
 

OneEng2

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There are like a zillion data points for stores that sell DIY CPUs and 9800X3D is like >80% of the volume.

To be fair, gaming is 100% what drives DIY sales. But DIY is only a small portion of the desktop volume.

Most desktop volume is Corpos who just prefer the form factor over laptops. It's not even cheaper these days.
Exactly this.

Seriously guys. You expect AMD to plan a future on DIY and gaming? That's not feasible.

Desktop in general is a receding market, and gaming on PC is also declining.

DC on the other hand is increasing.

Desktop has no future that isn't a derivative of DC IMO.
 

Kepler_L2

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Desktop in general is a receding market, and gaming on PC is also declining.

 
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soresu

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Careful with confirmation bias there.

#1. PC outselling consoles doesn't mean that the industry overall isn't declining.

#2. The first article is PC Gamer, so take their conclusions vis a vis PC gaming with a healthy sack or 2 of salt.

#3. Steam numbers increasing overall is to be expected even if the industry itself is declining, as the effect of increasing populations and internet access must be taken into account.

This is precisely why per capita figures in statistics are so important to normalise any analysis between nations with vastly differing population density.
 
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Glo.

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I always love when for discussion about PC SALES DECLINING people bring sales of PC games versus consoles sales as an argument to make any point, whatsoever...
 

Joe NYC

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Exactly this.

Seriously guys. You expect AMD to plan a future on DIY and gaming? That's not feasible.

Desktop in general is a receding market, and gaming on PC is also declining.

Intel desktop revenue is about as much as the entire AMD client revenue. So there is some upside potential there, especially in corporate desktop.

DC on the other hand is increasing.

Desktop has no future that isn't a derivative of DC IMO.

We might also see Kraken in low end and Strix Halo in high end corporate desktops.

One thing interesting about Kraken is that it supports DDR5 (not just LPDDR5).
 

Joe NYC

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But that is also true for Strix Point. [There are already miniPCs announced + new Framework 13]

I see, I was not aware of it. In fact, I seem to recall that some spec sheet said Strix Point is LPDDR5 only.

BTW, as an avid YouTube viewer, I have been bombarded by ads by MinisForum of their newest Strix Point based MiniPC. But I have not checked the specs (as far as memory type).
 
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