Didn't the same guy claim that Bristol Ridge will contain 1024 GPU cores (16 CU) and that Bristol Ridge supports DDR4-3600?
Not buying any of what you wrote. I am poking holes in a terribly written article, we all pretty much know is fake news. All you've done is defended it with conjecture.1. It's possible that supply is low precisely because of those additional products. Regardless, I cannot stress this enough, I am NOT saying the article is true. I am simply explaining how a theoretical situation in which supply is low, which THEY suggest is true, could cause the chips to be delayed. Please, if you carefully read anything at all today, make it this paragraph.
2. No it doesn't. Jesus, what are you reading? In no way does it draw a line between supply constraints and low demand from OEMs. Those are two ENTIRELY different things. OEMs having enough stock of CPUs is a totally distinct concept from the ability of upstream suppliers to supply materials in large enough quantities to support a launch. "Only high demand can cause low supply." No, dude, you're still not listening. I don't know why you're doing this. I really don't. But there are a million ways in which upstream suppliers can be constrained other than simply high OEM/retail demand. A crane could break at a mine, ffs. Why do you insist on pretending this is so simple? Why do you want to believe there are no more than like three factors involved?
3. Wrong, lol.
Didn't the same guy claim that Bristol Ridge will contain 1024 GPU cores (16 CU) and that Bristol Ridge supports DDR4-3600?
He never say BR will have but WOULD have more CUs, but later he clarified it COULD be another SKUs which isn't for desktop.
IIRC he's the first that claimed AM4 has 1331 pins and has different dimension. He is one of a best source in the past several months. Better than any other who is self-righteous especially in these noisy forums.
I don't know the history of this guy or the site he owns (?), but most of the stuff I've seen recently from the site / guy appear to be... well manure.
Many of the more accurate info seem to be second hand.
For example, the one regarding AM4: http://www.overclock.net/t/1588749/...r-excavator-says-lisa-su/450_50#post_24890985
I found nothing about this on the web.Zen taped-out in mid-2015
This could not be called a leak......just carrying some private 'guesstimation'.Intel only released Core i7-6950X due to their internal estimates of Zen, and so on...
I found nothing about this on the web.
This could not be called a leak......just carrying some private 'guesstimation'.
''Also, the part of the news about Intel is true: Intel will commercialize a Broadwell-E 10 cores due to their internal Zen estimated performances. Are Athlon64 times come back?''
wicka said:Slugger, that's not how journalism has ever worked, anywhere, in the entire history of human civilization.
And if you dig down, the last bit of information is from... Digitimes... Shocker.In journalism, a source is a person, publication, or other record or document that gives timely information
They don't have any source, references, nothing... Just FUD, which is getting them clicks... Mission Accomplished.
I have always maintained that I don't understand the article, that's been my point all along. The article makes zero sense.A shameful suggestion from a person who isn't willing to admit they simply misunderstood something.
The simple fact of the matter is that news articles of this sort literally never include their sources. These are people speaking out who do not have permission to speak on behalf of their organizations, people under NDA, etc. They are anonymous sources and they are obviously not going to be identified. This is elementary, dude, and your misunderstanding of this concept is absolutely baffling.
I'm not asking you to trust DigiTimes. I'm asking you to understand that you are expecting something outrageous from them. Scroll down on your Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalism#Right_to_protect_confidentiality_of_sources
I have always maintained that I don't understand the article, that's been my point all along. The article makes zero sense.
Why do you say this? Just because DigiTimes says something that you don't like doesn't mean they don't have sources.
Wow, so much outrage and defensiveness over a single article. I have no idea if it is true. If not, then it is just another unfounded tech article. Wont be the first or the last. Zen was not even scheduled until late 2016, so the "delay" if true is only a couple of months anyway. Hardly worth getting so worked up about.
I don't think there is a single person in here who actually cares about this article, adamantly believes it's true, or is defending DigiTimes in any way. All I'm saying is that the idea of demand for CPUs at OEMs being low is quite obviously, objectively, and undeniable an event that could possibly occur. And for a bunch of morons to show up and spam the thread with invented nonsense like "WHY WOULD AMD DELAY BECAUSE OF BULLDOZER," a thing that no one suggested, is just frustrating as all hell. Why can't we have this discussion without trolls, without liars, without people who sit at their keyboards all day fabricating reasons to be angry?
Honestly, read the last few pages, look at how many idiots wrote something like "it makes no sense for AMD to delay Zen in order to sell Bulldozer stock." Then go back further and see if you can find anyone who suggested such a thing.
I would really like the more experienced forum members (people who know the industry) to shed some light on this subject: I can understand how Intel would hold off launching a new product that is at best an incremental update of their current lineup, but for AMD to delay launching a new product they desperately need to improve their standing because of upstream channel saturation seems very unlikely to me.Again, I cannot stress this enough, and I will not say this again: I am not vouching for DigiTimes. I have no reason to believe what they say is true. But it is EASILY a plausible situation. Nothing about the scenario they describe is unlikely.