Review Zen4 3D review thread

[Hitman928]

Thread to focus on Zen4 3D cache CPUs.

New gaming king (as most expected), though the 2 CCD 7950x3d does seem to have issues with some games, more than I would expect of it getting stuck on the "wrong" CCD. I imagine it will get cleared up with subsequent updates but we'll see. Simulated 7800X3D showed no such issues and overall has the gaming lead (real product might be slightly slower though depending on in game clocks).

Computerbase also has the 7950x3d as the gaming champ. They (and TPU) also show that efficiency while gaming is extremely good.

Ryzen 9 7950X3D im Test gegen 5800X3D und 13900K(S)

Zen 4 3D ist da. Im Test erweist sich AMDs Ryzen 9 7950X3D gegen 7950X, 5800X3D und Core i9-13900K(S) als schnell und effizient.

www.computerbase.de

Just to toot my own horn a little, it landed spot on with my prediction of fastest gaming CPU but not significantly so over a 13900k on average, but with much higher efficiency.

Additional reviews, will add more later.

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D processor review

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AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D Review - Best of Both Worlds

The Ryzen 9 7950X3D is the spearhead of the AMD Zen 4 X3D lineup. In our performance review we test AMD's new 16-core flagship with dozens of applications and 14 games at up to 4K, to see whether AMD can take the performance crown from Intel, how power consumption is affected, and what can be...

www.techpowerup.com

The AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D Review: AMD's Fastest Gaming Processor

www.anandtech.com

Gamers Nexus

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D Linux Performance Review - Phoronix

www.phoronix.com

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D Review: AMD Retakes Gaming Crown with 3D V-Cache

AMD takes a bite out of Raptor Lake.

www.tomshardware.com

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D review: Team Red retakes the lead with its best CPU ever

The AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D is the best gaming CPU there is, and it's not close

www.techradar.com

 

[Thunder 57]

I wasn't talking about the list but about the video he posted.

It's not the only game, now I'm testing cyberpunk.

It is horrific in the sense it's losing to a stock 12900k - that cpu is slower than a 13600k man...

No one is watching a video if you are too lazy toput a timestamp in your post. And Cyberpunk is known for favoring Intel. You are just looking to stir the pot. Your name should be Just (cherry) Picking.

 

[leoneazzurro]

https://static.techspot.com/articles-info/2636/bench/2023-02-23-image-5-p.webp

This Cyberpunk?

Or this one?

 

[Just Benching]

No one is watching a video if you are too lazy toput a timestamp in your post. And Cyberpunk is known for favoring Intel. You are just looking to stir the pot. Your name should be Just (cherry) Picking.

I didn't post any video. The guy I quoted posted a video with the 3d on warzone 2 showing exactly the problem, 1% lows were at the 150 range. That's on an empty map...

 

[Just Benching]

https://static.techspot.com/articles-info/2636/bench/2023-02-23-image-5-p.webp

This Cyberpunk?

Or this one?

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It you don't understand that the techpowerUp graph is obviously wrong, you haven't used any of the cpus in question, apparently.

The 4090 can't get 170 fps at 1080p rt ultra... But he managed it. As ive said, people that don't have the hardware just accept what reviewers are trying to sell them..

He obviously used fg by accident

 

[leoneazzurro]

It you don't understand that the techpowerUp graph is obviously wrong, you haven't used any of the cpus in question, apparently.

Or maybe it's just you having issues and not understanding why. Also, I linked two tests, not only TPU. Also, the RT one was techspot and it's nowhere near 170 FPS. In the TPU one there is no indication of RT at all. At this point I doubt your ability to basically read anything.

 

[Just Benching]

Or maybe it's just you having issues and not understanding why. Also, I linked two tests, not only TPU.

The CARD cant do 170 fps at native 1080p in cyberpunk. But I don't understand. Okay man, whatever

 

[In2Photos]

The CARD cant do 170 fps at native 1080p in cyberpunk. But I don't understand. Okay man, whatever

This says otherwise, with 3 CPUs able to hit above 170 fps, 1080p Ultra.



So does this.


So that's at least 4 reviews now that show it can hit those numbers.

 

[Just Benching]

This says otherwise, with 3 CPUs able to hit above 170 fps, 1080p Ultra.

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So does this.
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So that's at least 4 reviews now that show it can hit those numbers.

Thats with RT off. With RT on it hits 130. I have the card, I don't need to check reviews about it....

Funnily enough the review you just posted proves the one from techpowerup is flawed. Where is that huge 3d lead, huh?

 

[leoneazzurro]

Moreover, one just could see that all reviews giving quite bad minumum FPS numbers to the Zen4 CPUs are done on the Asrock Taichi board, which is notorious for having some issues. Reviews which used the Asus or Gigabyte X670E boards have significantly better results. Just saying.

 

[Just Benching]

Moreover, one just could see that all reviews giving quite bad minumum FPS numbers to the Zen4 CPUs are done on the Asrock Taichi board, which is notorious for having some issues. Reviews which used the Asus or Gigabyte X670E boards have significantly better results. Just saying.

The guy (quite a known person in the amd ocing community) whose numbers im using / we are comparing against each other has an asus crosshair x670. His warzone 2 numbers are pretty similar to the video posted in the previous page

 

[In2Photos]

Thats with RT off. With RT on it hits 130. I have the card, I don't need to check reviews about it....

Funnily enough the review you just posted proves the one from techpowerup is flawed. Where is that huge 3d lead, huh?

Man you're all over the place. You started in Warzone, someone posts data showing you're wrong, so you jump to Cyberpunk. Someone posts more data, then you talk about RT frame rates when the data is for non RT.

Believe whatever you want to believe, keep on being you! You're special!

 

[Just Benching]

Man you're all over the place. You started in Warzone, someone posts data showing you're wrong

Where is the data proving im wrong? The video posted in the previous page proved im right, on an empty map the 3d was getting 150 1% lows, much lower than a stock 12900k managed on a quads game..

so you jump to Cyberpunk. Someone posts more data, then you talk about RT frame rates when the data is for non RT.

I didn't jump to cyberpunk, I said im currently testing it.

Believe whatever you want to believe, keep on being you! You're special!

I don't believe anything. I just test

 

[leoneazzurro]

No, you don't test, you only want to confirm your cognitive BIAS. If you wanted to test, and get the cause of the difference in numbers, you could have i.e. conteacted the reviewers having different numbers and shared experiences and saw if these numbers were reproducible or not with the same settings on the same platform. Instead you are reporting a limited sample of results without asking yourself why there could be differences in the results and what are the cause, and now you are even reporting "my friend says...". I say only one thing: professionality is completely something else.

 

[Just Benching]

OK bro, didn't know facts bother you, I'll stop using them.

The 3d gets insanely good 1% lows, happy?

 

[leoneazzurro]

If you brought facts, we could discuss about them. If you bring your bias and the incapability of reading basic data, I'm afraid your benching career will easily follow the userbenchmark one. Which could also make you happy, who knows.

 

[Just Benching]

This is the video im comparing to. I hope you know who that guy is.

 

[Hitman928]

The 7950x 3d is a good cpu - but the 7800x 3d will be much better and easier to work with out of the box. The problem - tradintionaly - with amd cpus for games, is what is now called "the amd DIP". Haven't checked a lot of games, but warzone 2 that works great on AMD hardware - 1% lows on the 3d are just bad , worse than my stock 12900k. Averages are of course much higher, but 1% lows are horrific.

Where is the data proving im wrong?

Why do you make a claim with no evidence and then ask where the data is that proves you wrong (which some was provided, btw)? Where did you share data that proves you right?

 

[Just Benching]

I posted a video with the most tuned 3d youve ever seen in your life. 1% lows drop as low as 150 and usually they are below 160. That's much worse than a stock 12900k, that's a fact, wtf are you all arguing about?

Im outta here. People don't like facts, damn this forum is dumb

 

[Hitman928]

That's much worse than a stock 12900k, that's a fact

Stated while providing no evidence to support the claim. . .

Im outta here.

Hope you now get to spend more time enjoying your system.

 

[Just Benching]

Stated while providing no evidence to support the claim. . .

Same map, same game mode, same .ini file (he shared his settings with me)

The above is a stock 12900k. A tuned one gets over 200 1% lows.

 

[Hitman928]

Same map, same game mode, same .ini file (he shared his settings with me)

The above is a stock 12900k. A tuned one gets over 200 1% lows.

There is very little consistency between your video and his. Different GPUs (yours is a 4090 vs. his is a 7900 XTX), different render resolutions (yours is lower), same map but different routes for the most part. These are not the basis for any kind of valid comparison.

 

[leoneazzurro]

There is very little consistency between your video and his. Different GPUs (yours is a 4090 vs. his is a 7900 XTX), different render resolutions (yours is lower), same map but different routes for the most part. These are not the basis for any kind of valid comparison.

WHAT? For comparing numbers they should be with the same GPU and at the same resolution (not mentioning settings)? This is really new! Never thought professional reviewers had such rules!

 

[Just Benching]

There is very little consistency between your video and his. Different GPUs (yours is a 4090 vs. his is a 7900 XTX), different render resolutions (yours is lower), same map but different routes for the most part. These are not the basis for any kind of valid comparison.

In both our channels we have plenty of videos with the game, 1% lows are pretty consistent and his (the 3d) are lower no matter what or how. Resolution doesn't matter, mine is actually 20:9 while he is playing 16:9, since my POV is much bigger fps should be lower, yet they aren't. Resolution and settings are the same, im just using higher resolution with higher DLSS. Doesn't make any difference (OBVIOUSLY, and you know that already) to 1% lows

If you don't see a glaring issue when an over the top tuned 3d is losing to a stock 12900k (that's running much wider POV!) in 1% lows, then....okay I guess?

He has videos with a 4090 as well, he gets worse lows - and it makes sense - warzone 2 is very amd optimized. You can check his channel. As i've said before though, facts are irrelevant here, so you do you man

Here you go, 4090

 

[leoneazzurro]

Fact is that you are posting numbers with wildly different combinations of resolution,VGA, settings, game situations and are trying to present these as the same testing environment. Do us and yourself a favor, stick with your decision to stay outta here and learn what it does mean to run a benchmark.

 

[Hitman928]

In both our channels we have plenty of videos with the game, 1% lows are pretty consistent and his (the 3d) are lower no matter what or how. Resolution doesn't matter, mine is actually 20:9 while he is playing 16:9, since my POV is much bigger fps should be lower, yet they aren't. Resolution and settings are the same, im just using higher resolution with higher DLSS. Doesn't make any difference (OBVIOUSLY, and you know that already) to 1% lows

If you don't see a glaring issue when an over the top tuned 3d is losing to a stock 12900k (that's running much wider POV!) in 1% lows, then....okay I guess?

He has videos with a 4090 as well, he gets worse lows - and it makes sense - warzone 2 is very amd optimized. You can check his channel. As i've said before though, facts are irrelevant here, so you do you man

This is the equivalent of saying, just google it. You made the claim, it's up to you to provide supporting evidence. That doesn't mean pulling videos from two different people with completely different systems, settings, and play throughs and pretending like it constitutes anything. Bad data proves nothing. I also know the person with the 7900XTX whose video you linked and I'm quite positive he doesn't agree with your conclusions either, but that doesn't really matter.