Review Zen4 3D review thread

[Hitman928]

Thread to focus on Zen4 3D cache CPUs.

New gaming king (as most expected), though the 2 CCD 7950x3d does seem to have issues with some games, more than I would expect of it getting stuck on the "wrong" CCD. I imagine it will get cleared up with subsequent updates but we'll see. Simulated 7800X3D showed no such issues and overall has the gaming lead (real product might be slightly slower though depending on in game clocks).

Computerbase also has the 7950x3d as the gaming champ. They (and TPU) also show that efficiency while gaming is extremely good.

Ryzen 9 7950X3D im Test gegen 5800X3D und 13900K(S)

Zen 4 3D ist da. Im Test erweist sich AMDs Ryzen 9 7950X3D gegen 7950X, 5800X3D und Core i9-13900K(S) als schnell und effizient.

www.computerbase.de

Just to toot my own horn a little, it landed spot on with my prediction of fastest gaming CPU but not significantly so over a 13900k on average, but with much higher efficiency.

Additional reviews, will add more later.

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D processor review

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AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D Review - Best of Both Worlds

The Ryzen 9 7950X3D is the spearhead of the AMD Zen 4 X3D lineup. In our performance review we test AMD's new 16-core flagship with dozens of applications and 14 games at up to 4K, to see whether AMD can take the performance crown from Intel, how power consumption is affected, and what can be...

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The AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D Review: AMD's Fastest Gaming Processor

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AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D Linux Performance Review - Phoronix

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AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D Review: AMD Retakes Gaming Crown with 3D V-Cache

AMD takes a bite out of Raptor Lake.

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AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D review: Team Red retakes the lead with its best CPU ever

The AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D is the best gaming CPU there is, and it's not close

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[Just Benching]

Fact is that you are posting numbers with wildly different combinations of resolution,VGA, settings, game situations and are trying to present these as the same testing environment. Do us and yourself a favor, stick with your decision to stay outta here and learn what does mean to run a benchmark.

Resolution doesn't make a difference. Obviously we are running wildly different combinations, how else are you going to compare an AMD cpu with an Intel CPU? Sadly we can't use each other's motheroards. The settings are the exact same, im literally using the .ini he provided me with, the only difference is resolution - that doesn't make any difference. He also tested with a 4090, and the exact same model I have in fact.

 

[Just Benching]

Bad data proves nothing. I also know the person with the 7900XTX whose video you linked and I'm quite positive he doesn't agree with your conclusions either, but that doesn't really matter.

Go ask him, or visit the forum he lurks in (don't wanna post which one, you can pm if you don't know), go to page 149 on the 3d thread of that forum and see for yourself

 

[leoneazzurro]

Resolution don't make a difference? LOL. Please just stop. You are not even funny anymore.

 

[Hitman928]

Go ask him, or visit the forum he lurks in (don't wanna post which one, you can pm if you don't know), go to page 149 on the 3d thread of that forum and see for yourself

Easy enough, here's what he said in response to your video:



You correct him about your minimum being 134, not your 1%, but the rest remains.

 

[Thunder 57]

I thought you were "outta here" dude. Don't let those sites that do this for a living fool you! Trust me and my homie! What a joke. But hey, the trolling is working, you are getting attention!

 

[Just Benching]

Easy enough, here's what he said in response to your video:

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You correct him about your minimum being 134, not your 1%, but the rest remains.

Cause he was looking at the 0.1%, check the very next post. Yes, my 0.1% were indeed 134, but his were even lower.

Funnily enough, he seems to disagree with you about "different scenes blabla".Maybe he is clueless
.

 

[Hitman928]

Cause he was looking at the 0.1%, check the very next post. Yes, my 0.1% were indeed 134, but his were even lower.

Funnily enough, he seems to disagree with you about "different scenes blabla".Maybe he is clueless

I already edited my post to include the misunderstanding about the lows, but that doesn't change the rest of it.



Not to wade too much into another forum's drama, but reading through that forum, it seems most people in that thread are about as receptive to your posts there as we are here, not sure why you'd mention it as if you have support there.

(J.D. quoted post is in response to one of yours implying you are constantly moving the goal posts).







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[leoneazzurro]

Your "friend" literally said that you are using the equivalent of 720p resolution and are comparing the results with a native 1440p, and if you think that's the same you have no clue at all about what you are talking about, and THAT is a fact. Now I stop, because it's true, we are feeding a troll and I only hope moderators will intervene and take the appropriate measures.

 

[Just Benching]

I already edited my post to include the misunderstanding about the lows, but that doesn't change the rest of it.

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Not to wade too much into another forum's drama, but reading through that forum, it seems most people in that thread are about as receptive to your posts there as we are here, not sure why you'd mention it as if you have support there.

(J.D. quoted post is in response to one of yours implying you are constantly moving the goal posts).

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Are they?

Let's see what he - himself has to say about it.



Does any of that make any difference on whether or not the 3d has bad 1% lows in warzone2?

Anyways, you are missing the point. Let's forget that the 12900k gets better lows. Let's say they are equal. Don't you see the problem when a stock 12900k ties a fully tuned 3d in 1% lows? I have a video running tuned with the 12900k and it ends up with over 200 1% lows. A 13900k would obliterate both my 12900k and the 3d.

 

[Just Benching]

Your "friend" literally said that you are using the equivalent of 720p resolution and are comparing the results with a native 1440p, and if you think that's the same you have no clue at all about what you are talking about, and THAT is a fact. Now I stop, because it's true, we are feeding a troll and I only hope moderators will intervene and take the appropriate measures.

I wasn't using 720p - was using 1440p with DLSS UP, but doesn't make a difference even if I was using a single pixel. 1% lows were entirely bottlenecked by the cpu in both our runs

 

[Hitman928]

Your "friend" literally said that you are using the equivalent of 720p resolution and are comparing the results with a native 1440p, and if you think that's the same you have no clue at all about what you are talking about, and THAT is a fact. Now I stop, because it's true, we are feeding a troll and I only hope moderators will intervene and take the appropriate measures.

Agreed, time to just ignore. The evidence (or complete lack thereof) is out there, people can make their own judgements.

 

[leoneazzurro]

1440p with DLSS Performance IS 720p upscaled. And yes, it makes a difference as just EVERY review out there will show you a difference between minimum frame rates at 720p and 1440p on the SAME system with the SAME VGA. As told, you have no clue about what you are talking about.

 

[Just Benching]

1440p with DLSS Performance IS 720p upscaled. And yes, it makes a difference as just EVERY review out there will show you a difference between minimum frame rates at 720p and 1440p on the SAME system with the SAME VGA. As told, you have no clue about what you are talking about.

No it does not, not when your CPU is the bottleneck. Common sense. Have you ever used a PC before?

I can test at 480p with DLSS UP and post a video, will you accept you are wrong after you see I have the exact same 1% lows?

 

[Just Benching]

Agreed, time to just ignore. The evidence (or complete lack thereof) is out there, people can make their own judgements.

Imagine how far you are gone when someone that literally WORKS for amd accepts the results and you don't. LMAO

 

[In2Photos]

WOW, this went a LOT worse than I thought it would when I left for a while. I come back to the thread and the person that started all this crap about 1% lows in one map of one game being SO BAD for the 7950X3D and he isn't even comparing apples to apples. He's comparing apples to space rocks!

BTW guys did you notice how much more FPS the 7950X3D gets at 1080p in CSGO with RT off than the 13900K gets in Portal at 4K with RT on? The 13900 gets OBLITERATED!!!!

 

[leoneazzurro]

No it does not, not when your CPU is the bottleneck. Common sense. Have you ever used a PC before?

I can test at 480p with DLSS UP and post a video, will you accept you are wrong after you see I have the exact same 1% lows?

Did you understand that at 1440p native there will be a lower low FPS number because you start to become more and more GPU limited compared to 720p? And you are suggesting to post a video with even lower resolution for "demonstrating" your nonsense. Why don't show me a video at 4K with DLSS quality then? Just. Stop.

 

[Just Benching]

Why don't show me a video at 4K with DLSS quality then?

Sure, my 1% lows will be the exact same. Will you admit it after I post the video though?

EG1. Just tested 4k + DLSS Q. No difference, lowest was 150, highest was 200, usually around 170....

 

[leoneazzurro]

Sure, my 1% lows will be the exact same. Will you admit it after I post the video though?

Lol. You will probably lower the graphics settings so much that you will end CPU limited at 4K. No, I want to see an independent reviewer doing the same. You are not trustable as a source.
You could start explaining why an independent review, on the same system and the same GPU you get different WAY Low FPS at different resolutions, btw

 

[scannall]

Sure, my 1% lows will be the exact same. Will you admit it after I post the video though?

EG1. Just tested 4k + DLSS Q. No difference, lowest was 150, highest was 200, usually around 170....

Why are you even in this thread? You prefer Intel, and that's fine. I'm glad their is a part on the market that you like. Your wants and needs though are exclusive to you. Just as mine are to me. No matter what CPU a person buys it will likely be a great experience these days, not including Celeron's and Pentiums.

 

[moinmoin]

learn what it does mean to run a benchmark.

Don't be too hard on him, he may feel remorse about the name he picked.

...is what I had in mind as response one and a half page ago only to see that he apparently disabled his account already. Oh well, as Hitman928 put it:

Hope you now get to spend more time enjoying your system.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I am perplexed as to why some feel the need to pimp Intel in AMD threads.

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I see he also took his ball and went home.

AMD expectedly takes the gaming crown with the new 3D. And some people took that personally. So we start getting anecdotal sample sizes you can count on one hand, about why Intel is still the champ. Then they hit you with the used car salesperson pitch "Yeah, it seems like a great CPU from reading reviews...too bad about that "AMD dip" though." LULZ

If the idea is to educate us, I would strongly recommend coming with verifiable data, based on a methodology that doesn't have more holes than Swiss cheese. I think they end up hurting Intel, in the same way userbenchmark does. When you make things up about another brand, move the goal post constantly, and debate in bad faith, it turns people off.

 

[Mopetar]

I see he also took his ball and went home.

Since you're an appreciator of image memes, here's one that sums up my feelings on his departure.

 

[KompuKare]

Over on the Fallout 4 drawcall thread @Det0x was kind enough to post their scores with their 7950X3D.
The full scoresheet is over there
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...erformance-in-fallout-4.2548618/post-40969980
but here is a summary vs the next best score and Det0x's previous scores with the normal 7950X:

Pretty impressive.

Would still like others to post there too - especially if someone is running at more of a stock settings - after all, stock performance was what was so impressive about the 5800X3D.

 

[MadRat]

Wow on efficiency improvements.

Cost of ownership should be compared across 250 work days with average 8 hours/day. You can probably afford half of a second AMD 7950X3D CPU over the Intel flagship, based strictly on electrical costs.

 

[Mopetar]

That assumes that you're using your computer more akin to a server where the average load is high. Most people aren't going to have even a 6-core CPU pegged for their entire work day.

Any business that really cares would monitor the usage patterns to figure out how much of a difference it makes. Anyone who has something that scales incredibly well and runs it around the clock is probably already using AMD.