Review Zen4 3D review thread

[Hitman928]

Thread to focus on Zen4 3D cache CPUs.

New gaming king (as most expected), though the 2 CCD 7950x3d does seem to have issues with some games, more than I would expect of it getting stuck on the "wrong" CCD. I imagine it will get cleared up with subsequent updates but we'll see. Simulated 7800X3D showed no such issues and overall has the gaming lead (real product might be slightly slower though depending on in game clocks).

Computerbase also has the 7950x3d as the gaming champ. They (and TPU) also show that efficiency while gaming is extremely good.

Ryzen 9 7950X3D im Test gegen 5800X3D und 13900K(S)

Zen 4 3D ist da. Im Test erweist sich AMDs Ryzen 9 7950X3D gegen 7950X, 5800X3D und Core i9-13900K(S) als schnell und effizient.

www.computerbase.de

Just to toot my own horn a little, it landed spot on with my prediction of fastest gaming CPU but not significantly so over a 13900k on average, but with much higher efficiency.

Additional reviews, will add more later.

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D processor review

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AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D Review - Best of Both Worlds

The Ryzen 9 7950X3D is the spearhead of the AMD Zen 4 X3D lineup. In our performance review we test AMD's new 16-core flagship with dozens of applications and 14 games at up to 4K, to see whether AMD can take the performance crown from Intel, how power consumption is affected, and what can be...

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The AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D Review: AMD's Fastest Gaming Processor

www.anandtech.com

Gamers Nexus

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D Linux Performance Review - Phoronix

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AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D Review: AMD Retakes Gaming Crown with 3D V-Cache

AMD takes a bite out of Raptor Lake.

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AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D review: Team Red retakes the lead with its best CPU ever

The AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D is the best gaming CPU there is, and it's not close

www.techradar.com

 

[inf64]

13900K and KS still have the best single core performance. They still lead in some applications as Excel.

Well I'm talking about the average numbers. The combined perf. for ST and MT is super close, even with 120W PPT limit. If you were to enable PBO it will be even better.

 

[Kocicak]

13900K and KS still have the best single core performance. They still lead in some applications as Excel.

Multithread and gaming performance is comparable between the two manufacturers.

Intel suffers in mid- to multi-thread power efficiency.

 

[coercitiv]

13900K and KS still have the best single core performance. They still lead in some applications as Excel.

LOL.

 

[Kocicak]

Do not LOL, Excel is a very important application for some.

 

[igor_kavinski]

ExceLOL!!!

 

[igor_kavinski]

I love this chart. I hereby decree that 7950X and 13900K(S) are banned for sale in my jurisdiction

 

[Hitman928]

Do not LOL, Excel is a very important application for some.

Ok then. . .

Probably want to set to "prefer frequency CCD" if that is the case.

 

[IEC]

Flight sim players, rejoice:

 

[blckgrffn]

I appreciate the trouble toms went to in showing stanrdard, expo mem and pbo. Also they did the flight sim people asked for.

Same. Their cons list is a stretch, but the review itself seems very solid imo. I appreciate that they went out of their way to test more games and came back with some simple results.

When the caches is in play, it's a huge factor. When it isn't, it's basically on par with 13900K.

Obviously lower power consumption and the high likelihood of a drop in CPU for a generational update in 2-4 years without digging into the guts of the PC and it should have great staying power in terms of value.

Everyone looking for a awesome gaming CPU for now and years too come can leave the fence. The best value and the best performance is likely still a couple months away, but I am glad I have my 5800X3D. Those graphs confirmed it's fine

 

[Kocicak]

Ok then. . .

Probably want to set to "prefer frequency CCD" if that is the case.

Tomshardware and Techpowerup do not agree with your slide.





and Intel is crushing AMD in Outlook!

 

[nicalandia]

Do not LOL, Excel is a very important application for some.

ZOMG... LOL

 

[igor_kavinski]

Tomshardware and Techpowerup do not agree with your slide.

THIS

IS

ANANDTECH!

Agree or save us the trouble and jump into the bottomless pit

On a serious note, TPU and TH are probably using some wimpy Excel sheets for testing.

 

[Hitman928]

Tomshardware and Techpowerup do not agree with your slide.

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and Intel is crushing AMD in Outlook!

It's not my slide, it's Anandtech's.

It probably comes down to power consumption as the results between the 3 sites aren't much different if you remove the overclocked results at Tom's. Even if we take your numbers, the main point is that no one will be buying a 13900k over a 7950x3d to be ~4% faster in Excel (while burning tons more power).

 

[Kocicak]

THIS IS ANANDTECH!

Perhaps ANAND-left-TECH? The shiny guy in now in the circular building.

 

[Kocicak]

... the main point is that no one will be buying a 13900k over a 7950x3d to be ~4% faster in Excel (while burning tons more power).

Actually Office applications are some of the (few) applications in which Intel may be very (or at least satisfactorily) efficient.

 

[biostud]

So does anyone expect the 7900X to be a 8x3D+4 layout?

 

[Hitman928]

Unsurprisingly to most who viewed the prior reviews with actually open eyes, test sites like Tom's where they use officially supported memory only at stock show the biggest improvements for the 7950x3d over the 7950x. Now, comparing stock results between RPL and Zen4-3D, the Raptorlake systems are at a disadvantage due to their slow memory whereas the 3d cache chips aren't effected by memory very much. For those who supported only officially supported memory speeds as being the "proper" way of testing, the Zen4-3D cache chips should be an even more obvious choice as Tom's shows the 7950x3d as being 13% faster on average under these conditions compared to the 13900k.

 

[MarkPost]

are we talking about office apps? really?

 

[Hitman928]

Actually Office applications are some of the (few) applications in which Intel may be very (or at least satisfactorily) efficient.

Compared to a 3d cache Zen4? Highly doubtful.

 

[In2Photos]

Actually Office applications are some of the (few) applications in which Intel may be very (or at least satisfactorily) efficient.

And based on all of the micro form factor PCs that are showing up for these office tasks NONE of them will have any variant of a 7950X or 13900 in them.

 

[Geddagod]

7950X3D seems to be the best CPU to buy right now. Effectively ties 13900k in gaming/productivity, crushes it in efficiency. A bit disappointed in the lack of gaming performance gains over vanilla zen 4, but the efficiency was way better than what I thought it was going to be, especially in gaming workloads.

 

[Kocicak]

7950X3D seems to be the best CPU to buy right now.

It is 20% better in gaming and slower in many tasks than the normal version. Is it worth the extra money?

 

[deasd]

Unsurprisingly to most who viewed the prior reviews with actually open eyes, test sites like Tom's where they use officially supported memory only at stock show the biggest improvements for the 7950x3d over the 7950x. Now, comparing stock results between RPL and Zen4-3D, the Raptorlake systems are at a disadvantage due to their slow memory whereas the 3d cache chips aren't effected by memory very much. For those who supported only officially supported memory speeds as being the "proper" way of testing, the Zen4-3D cache chips should be an even more obvious choice as Tom's shows the 7950x3d as being 13% faster on average under these conditions compared to the 13900k.

Hassan: at least 20% faster!
Everybody: HypeTrain!
...........
(7950X3D 26% faster than 7950X)

also Hassan:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1629116333991272449

 

[inf64]

It is 20% better in gaming and slower in many tasks than the normal version. Is it worth the extra money?

You can use PBO to force it to use more power if you need better app performance. Or even maybe fine tune it with curve optimizer. The efficiency is out of this world.

 

[Kocicak]

You can use PBO to force it to use more power if you need better app performance. Or even maybe fine tune it with curve optimizer. The efficiency is out of this world.

You can use PBO to force it to use more power ... and to significantly worsen the efficiency in the same time!