Anderson Cooper aka Vanderbilt is worth like 500m from a trust fund. Typical stir the pot lib and see what those peons do.
Pretty sure even under the "old" law GZ would have been acquitted. What else could he do whilst being straddled to escape or retreat?
Anderson Cooper aka Vanderbilt is worth like 500m from a trust fund. Typical stir the pot lib and see what those peons do.
While true, I was only responding to those making such statements of fact on this forum.
If I had to guess what really happened (and this is from my ass), I'd say Zimmerman followed and confronted Martin. Martin got upset and confrontational and Zimmerman tried pulling his "forgotten" gun on Martin to keep him at bay but was unable to. Martin, seeing this did what he felt was his only option and started attacking the MMA experienced Zimmerman and got a few punches in before zimmerman pulled his gun out and shot Martin.
I'm pretty sure in a foot race Martin would have easily outran Zimmerman in an escape, Martin had every opportunity to run and let the police sort it out later.The law used to be that you had to make every attempt to escape or to stop the attack.
At worst he would have been beaten up and Martin would still be alive and this whole case would have been non existent.
But yeah there was nothing he could do. :shakes head
Lol, I guess we are on equal ground then as your posts are pulled from your ass. The difference being that when I pull from my ass I announce it.
Too bad you weren't Martin, I could then share a similar joy that you apparently have about this case.
FBI guy didn't know and both parents thought that it was their own son?
Again I only read a few articles...didn't follow it 100%
Your theory is not consistent with the presented evidence.
Tracy Martin didn't know that it was his son when he was first asked by the FBI. When Tracy took the stand he then said that it was his son.
On the Zimmerman family side, they said they were positive that it was their son from the beginning.
Overall, the scream for help is not reliable evidence. What is reliable is the autopsy that goes along with it.
Why would someone scream for help when their injury was an instant death? Martin showed no other signs of injury other than the kill shot, whereas Zimmerman showed laceration on his head and a bloody nose.
It's more likely Zimmerman screamed for help due to his injuries. There's a small possibility that Martin could be screaming for help while Zimmerman had him at gun point ready for execution, but why would anyone scream when in that situation?
Your theory is not consistent with the presented evidence.
Tracy Martin didn't know that it was his son when he was first asked by the FBI. When Tracy took the stand he then said that it was his son.
On the Zimmerman family side, they said they were positive that it was their son from the beginning.
Overall, the scream for help is not reliable evidence. What is reliable is the autopsy that goes along with it.
Why would someone scream for help when their injury was an instant death? Martin showed no other signs of injury other than the kill shot, whereas Zimmerman showed laceration on his head and a bloody nose.
It's more likely Zimmerman screamed for help due to his injuries. There's a small possibility that Martin could be screaming for help while Zimmerman had him at gun point ready for execution, but why would anyone scream when in that situation?
Please stop making up scenarios you have no way of proving. For every false scenario you create, someone with a differing view could say that Martin could have slammed Zimmerman's head hard enough to kill him or we could make up the scenario where Martin goes to far and decides to kick Zimmerman in the head.
I would say, if Zimmerman pulled his gun out before Martin began beating him up, then Martin would have known he was armed, and my "out of my ass" intuition would suspect that Martin would focus his fight against the hands of Zimmerman, not his head and nose.
All the evidence appears that Martin easily had the upper-hand in the fight. If you know the other person has a gun your number one priority is making sure the gun is never pointed at you. Restrain the arms, restrain the hands, try to take control of the gun. One shot of a gun is more powerful than
That didn't happen.
Hence I don't believe Zimmerman pulled a gun on Martin before he began attacking. Unless you want to claim Martin was banking on the chance the gun was unloaded, which then kind of means he was attacking on the assumption this is a defenseless opponent.
I'm pretty sure in a foot race Martin would have easily outran Zimmerman in an escape, Martin had every opportunity to run and let the police sort it out later.
You seem to forget GZ himself didn't believe it was him screaming when he heard the tape.
Oh I'm sorry I didn't realize you were the post police and I wasn't allowed to state my opinion. My bad, please carry on stating speculation as fact and no proof of guilt as meaning not guilty.
Lol!
Again, Zimmerman's first instinct was to pull the gun and not fight. He couldn't do it and a struggle ensued.
As for being able to out run Martin, it doesn't matter if he could of or not, the point of the law was that the attempt be made.
Quick question; martin's body was found on the grass right? Was it face up or face down?
WOW this juror on CNN is just too much. Practically admits, it was natural for Zimmerman to fear Trayvon, because he was black. While not saying this directly, she implies this.
As I'm sure you read, I addressed both your points, a lack of evidence and Martin being on top. The evidence for any scenario is minimal and incomplete, feel free to explain what happened in your mind that explains the evidence brought into the trial.
The law used to be that you had to make every attempt to escape or to stop the attack. Good thing the states promote violent endings instead.
WOW this juror on CNN is just too much. Practically admits, it was natural for Zimmerman to fear Trayvon, because he was black. While not saying this directly, she implies this.
You seem to forget GZ himself didn't believe it was him screaming when he heard the tape.
Oh I'm sorry I didn't realize you were the post police and I wasn't allowed to state my opinion. My bad, please carry on stating speculation as fact and no proof of guilt as meaning not guilty.
Lol!
At worst he would have been beaten up and Martin would still be alive and this whole case would have been non existent.
But yeah there was nothing he could do. :shakes head
You seem to forget GZ himself didn't believe it was him screaming when he heard the tape.
It's funny, though.. the trial ends, "come-lately's" (myself well) jump in, and so do white racist supremacists, pissing on the grave of a dead black teen.
... and people say we're "progressing"?
Racism runs deep, and therefore, cannot keep hidden for long, as this thread time and time again, delivered on.
Go America!! We're moving "Forward"!!!
The whole time you seemed totally unaware of the specifics of the events that happened. It doesn't matter if Martin circled Zimmerman's car or not. Martin confronted Zimmerman regardless.
There's more evidence towards Martin causing the first assault which helped the jury come to the decision that it was self defense. Once they agreed it was self defense due to Martin most likely assaulting Zimmerman first, they determined Zimmerman not guilty.
With duty to retreat I bleive once zimm put himself in a self admitted dangerous situation he could be liable. Not sure tho.
At worst he would have been beaten up and Martin would still be alive and this whole case would have been non existent.
But yeah there was nothing he could do. :shakes head