Zimmerman verdict in not guilty

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Londo_Jowo

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Psychiatric too.

Anyway, at this moment Martins family doesn't seem interested in pursuing a civil case but when CNN asked the JD about a civil rights case they said that they couldn't comment as they were conducting their own investigation. That sounds like a pound of flesh may yet be had.

I think they realize GZ will be granted immunity from civil actions as the only way he was found not guilty is due to justified use of force. I don't see a civil rights investigation as the FBI already determined that GZ is not racist and he was acquitted by a court of law/jury on grounds of self defense.
 

Nintendesert

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A moronic video game player is facing 10 years in prison for a "terroristic" threat, an obviously sarcastic comment followed by a "jk". So, will all these people threatening murder of Jorge Zimmerman, riots, and other "terroristic" threats be facing 10 years in prison? We've seen the comments on Facebook and other message boards and even here. I somehow doubt it, but it goes to show the bias in the justice system and the absurdity of the video game player's persecution.
 

MrX8503

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I'm surprised that he was found not guilty, considering the media was convicting Zimmerman. The justice system actually worked this time.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I don't see a civil rights investigation as the FBI already determined that GZ is not racist and he was acquitted by a court of law/jury on grounds of self defense.

I don't have the link handy, but the JD says the investigating is in progress. What they do is what's up in the air.
 

Double Trouble

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I think the only reasonable outcome based on the evidence was not guilty. The entire case was the result of political pressure, glad to see that the jurors didn't send Zimmerman to prison for defending himself.
 

Abwx

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I'm surprised that he was found not guilty, considering the media was convicting Zimmerman. The justice system actually worked this time.

What has worked is to create a psychological ambiance
where the jury was seemingly opposed to the general
opinion so that he sees an acquitement as a prove
of independence hence the jury was led forcibly
to sustain any element that would allow to acquit
said proved killer.
 

Londo_Jowo

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What has worked is to create a psychological ambiance
where the jury was seemingly opposed to the general
opinion so that he sees an acquitement as a prove
of independence hence the jury was led forcibly
to sustain any element that would allow to acquit
said proved killer.

Are you really this dense????
 
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I don't have the link handy, but the JD says the investigating is in progress. What they do is what's up in the air.

I would be very surprised to see charges actually brought. The DOJ has to be fully aware he would most likely be acquitted again, and thus the whole process would likely worsen the furor over the case rather than reducing it.
 

Abwx

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Are you really this dense????

Not at all , but reading the infos about the elements
and witnesses makes me doubtfull of the jury s ability
to really grasp the essential , it s like a discussion
where the one that speak the last one will looks
the most convicing in the eye of the ones who
have to make the decision.
 

Londo_Jowo

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Not at all , but reading the infos about the elements
and witnesses makes me doubtfull of the jury s ability
to really grasp the essential , it s like a discussion
where the one that speak the last one will looks
the most convicing in the eye of the ones who
have to make the decision.

No, you are really that dense. If you actually watched the trial, listened to the witnesses, saw the evidence, and understood the laws for 2nd degree/manslaughter/self defense you would understand how the jury came to the verdict they did in this case.
 

IGBT

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the only reason it went to trial was the early on politicization by the obama.
 

1prophet

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What has worked is to create a psychological ambiance
where the jury was seemingly opposed to the general
opinion so that he sees an acquitement as a prove
of independence hence the jury was led forcibly
to sustain any element that would allow to acquit
said proved killer.

You can always get out the torches and pitchforks and rally the troops for a good old lynching like back in the day, after all he looked guilty and that should be enough.
 

Ichinisan

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To be honest, I would never harm Zimmerman my self, but if someone else did, I probably wouldn't hold it against them.

You are a horrible, horrible person. You're condoning exactly the kind of behavior you incorrectly attribute to Zimmerman...and you condemn him for it.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I would be very surprised to see charges actually brought. The DOJ has to be fully aware he would most likely be acquitted again, and thus the whole process would likely worsen the furor over the case rather than reducing it.

I hope you are correct. I refrained from having a predetermined opinion of the case and haven't followed it closely, partially for that reason.

What I have looked at is patterns and actions and while I understand what and why things happen. I believe that consideration of the determination of truth was compromised to a considerable degree. I know ours is an adversarial system, and not one which the government or defense seek objective truth however it ought to be impartial in motivation.

I was not convinced that there was sufficient compelling interest in a conviction outside the norm, however attempting charges based on child abuse seemed beyond reasonable.

That leads me to wonder if similar pressures might lead to action by the JD. I freely admit my chain of reasoning does not account for things I cannot know about the process but based
on knoen outside pressures I think it not an unreasonable speculation.
 

MagickMan

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No, you are really that dense. If you actually watched the trial, listened to the witnesses, saw the evidence, and understood the laws for 2nd degree/manslaughter/self defense you would understand how the jury came to the verdict they did in this case.

Of course they didn't, they only want what they want, the actual law be damned. Fools.
 

Hugo Drax

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Where is all that outrage when it comes to Black on Black violence and drug dealing by black gangs in the community to young black children?

Why is it you never see the entire African American community, protest and get outraged against the criminal element in their own back yard destroying their youth?

It seems misplaced all this outrage against one guy when every day a young African American is a victim by one of their own in their own community. Either by drugs or by guns.
 

her209

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Where is all that outrage when it comes to Black on Black violence and drug dealing by black gangs in the community to young black children?

Why is it you never see the entire African American community, protest and get outraged against the criminal element in their own back yard destroying their youth?

It seems misplaced all this outrage against one guy when every day a young African American is a victim by one of their own in their own community. Either by drugs or by guns.

They are. You just don't see it being reported because its not interesting enough, i.e., not a ratings generator.
 

OutHouse

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Not at all , but reading the infos about the elements
and witnesses makes me doubtfull of the jury s ability
to really grasp the essential , it s like a discussion
where the one that speak the last one will looks
the most convicing in the eye of the ones who
have to make the decision.

this describes your post perfectly.
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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Where is all that outrage when it comes to Black on Black violence and drug dealing by black gangs in the community to young black children?

Why is it you never see the entire African American community, protest and get outraged against the criminal element in their own back yard destroying their youth?

It seems misplaced all this outrage against one guy when every day a young African American is a victim by one of their own in their own community. Either by drugs or by guns.

i was asking this the second that flaming racist Sharpton stuck his racist nose into this.
 

MagickMan

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I suspect GZ has already taken custody of his KelTek PF9 and will have his concealed weapons permit reinstated tomorrow.

Good to know, I hope his entire family is vigilant WRT their safety (the lawyers and their interns, as well).
 
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