Zimmerman verdict in not guilty

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Zodiark1593

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To be honest, I would never harm Zimmerman my self, but if someone else did, I probably wouldn't hold it against them.

There is a reason vigilantism is strongly discouraged. If there is more to the story that somehow provides malicious intent, the court apparently doesn't know, let alone the random people all up in arms about this verdict. Unless someone out there can prove his guilt, pursuing further action will do more harm than good.

FYI, I too would rather not leave justice in the hands of an ill-informed, easily manipulated populace.
 

Texashiker

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The root issue of the Zimmerman case is the peoples ability to protect not only their community, but also themselves.

Community had a rash of crime.

Community organizes watch program.

Community watch member sees suspicious person walking streets at night.

Suspicious person attacks community watch member.

Community watch member shoots and kills suspicious person in self-defense.

There is no racism in what happened.

By protesting the verdict, people are saying we should not have the right to protect our community, nor should we have the right to protect ourselves.

In other words, protestors are saying we should stay in our homes why crime runs rampant on our streets.

Martin and Zimmerman were at the wrong place and at the wrong time. But just because Zimmerman was following Martin, that did not give Martin the right to attack Zimmerman.

There is no reason to protest this verdict. To protest the verdict is to protest our ability to be safe and secure.
 
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ivwshane

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The root issue of the Zimmerman case is the peoples ability to protect not only their community, but also themselves.

Community had a rash of crime.

Community organizes watch program.

Community watch member sees suspicious person walking streets at night.

Suspicious person attacks community watch member.

Community watch member shoots and kills suspicious person in self-defense.

There is no racism in what happened.

By protesting the verdict, people are saying we should not have the right to protect our community, nor should we have the right to protect ourselves.

In other words, protestors are saying we should stay in our homes why crime runs rampant on our streets.

Martin and Zimmerman were at the wrong place and at the wrong time. But just because Zimmerman was following Martin, that did not give Martin the right to attack Zimmerman.

There is no reason to protest this verdict. To protest the verdict is to protest our ability to be safe and secure.

Yeah no racism other than Martin being profiled and suspected of doing no good because he was black. The justification being that all previous break ins were done by black people and we all know that if multiple black people commit a crime then all black people commit crimes.

Other than that though there was no racism.


Lol and yeah Martin was at the wrong place at the wrong time...walking to his home at 7pm. The stupid nig*** should have been inside before the sun went down!

I especially liked how the defense painted Martin as a scary black man and brought in a vulnerable little white women to justify Zimmerman's racial profiling.

But yeah, no racism was involved./s

Look, there can be racism committed by a non racist people, racism still exists its just not the blatant kind that existed decades ago.


As for the verdict...it was the correct verdict and the only verdict the jury could have given because the prosecution did a horrible job in my opinion. Their case was inconsistent and defensive.
 

ivwshane

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Trayvon had the right to go home, not punch GZ in the face.

Yep, Martin doesn't have the right to self defense, he's black and black people aren't scared of nothing! Certainly nor some shaved headed white guy! Martin should have been a good nig*** and when he was confronted by Zimmerman he should have layed on the ground with his hands spread out while Zimmerman did his investigation.
Oh but Zimmerman wasn't following Martin, he was looking for the street name for one of the three streets he's lived around for the last four years, to give to the police and while doing that Martin decided to turn the tables on the "crazy ass cracker" who was following him and decided to persue Zimmerman. Yeah that makes total sense!

Usually when someone is being followed they ask the follower, "what are you doing here". Yeah that makes sense!/s

But yeah, he didn't have the right to punch Zimmerman but Zimmerman did have the right to kill Martin because he was scared. No double standard there!
 
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Bitek

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Both parties were idiots imo. Zimmerman, through stupidity or malice, created a dangerous situation.TM, while justified to have feared as someone follow him, decided to confront him instead of using his cell to call the cops.

Somehow a fight starts, on one really knows what happens, some idiot brings a gun into it, and someone ends up dead. I don't see how you get past doubt, but I don't believe George is innocent even tho he's not guilty.

Grown men should have more sense that he showed.
 

JEDIYoda

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The root issue of the Zimmerman case is the peoples ability to protect not only their community, but also themselves.

Community had a rash of crime. -- okay so where were the Police??

Community organizes watch program.-- Yes! A watch program not a get out of your vehicle with a gun program!

Community watch member sees suspicious person walking streets at night.-- so they call the Police and the Police tell them to not persue!

Suspicious person attacks community watch member. -- Don`t tell me that if Zimmerman would have stayed in his vehicle as he was told to do that Trayvon would have walked up to the vehicle and attacked....

Community watch member shoots and kills suspicious person in self-defense. -- so what would you do if you were being followed by somebody who did not identify himself and was carrying a weapon?? You would fear for your life....you can`t have it both ways!!

There is no racism in what happened. -- umm YES!! There is...it was heard all over the 911 calls....

By protesting the verdict, people are saying we should not have the right to protect our community, nor should we have the right to protect ourselves. -- you don`t have a right to carry a gun and shoot me for the hell of it...

In other words, protestors are saying we should stay in our homes why crime runs rampant on our streets.

Martin and Zimmerman were at the wrong place and at the wrong time. But just because Zimmerman was following Martin, that did not give Martin the right to attack Zimmerman.

There is no reason to protest this verdict. To protest the verdict is to protest our ability to be safe and secure.


I have a feeling this will not end well for Zimmerman...in fact we can`t find the remains of Jimmy Hoffa.....hmmm
 

JEDIYoda

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He did go home. And I stead of doing what a normal person would do(call the cops), he walked outside and started a fight.
No he did NOT go home....this is from wikipedia...

The fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin by George ... not like he was trying to get out of the rain ... Investigators said that Martin attempted to run home, ...
 

sandorski

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Oct 10, 1999
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Sadly, someone is dead who shouldn't be. I don't think Zimmerman had intent, but his actions lead to the death of Trayvon regardless. The whole idea of Stand Your Ground is seriously flawed, especially in this case. Seems to me that Trayvon was merely Standing his Ground, unfortunately he didn't have a Gun and wasn't the one on trial for the death of Zimmerman. That said, even if the situation was reversed that way, I still think that only a Manslaughter verdict could be considered Justice.
 

GoPackGo

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No he did NOT go home....this is from wikipedia...

The fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin by George ... not like he was trying to get out of the rain ... Investigators said that Martin attempted to run home, ...

According the prosecutions own witness TM made it home(not really his home). He chose to go after GZ. TM sucker punched GZ and started beating on him. All facts and testimony support this.

If anything...TM proved GZ right.
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
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According the prosecutions own witness TM made it home(not really his home). He chose to go after GZ. TM sucker punched GZ and started beating on him. All facts and testimony support this.

If anything...TM proved GZ right.
GoPackGo is online now Report Post
I am sorry that not what the p[rosecution said..please post the prosecutions transcripts...
 
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So the Sanford police were right all along? Anyone find it sad that the Police Chief got sacked over this? Now the trial is over, we showed everyone that mob justice was wrong, and the sacking was for no good.

I find it sad how the mob can demand such unreasonable actions and besides Trayvon who lost his life, we have someone who lost a job.
 
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The root issue of the Zimmerman case is the peoples ability to protect not only their community, but also themselves.

Community watch member sees suspicious person walking streets at night.-- so they call the Police and the Police tell them to not persue!

Stop saying this over and over again. It's been beaten to death and you're wrong. The 911 operator said we don't need you to do that. They don't have legal authority to tell you what to do. GZ didn't do anything illegal by following someone suspicious. You don't like that? Change the stalking laws then.

Suspicious person attacks community watch member. -- Don`t tell me that if Zimmerman would have stayed in his vehicle as he was told to do that Trayvon would have walked up to the vehicle and attacked....

We don't know. You're speculating that TM wouldn't have attacked if GZ was in a car, but TM attacked GZ nonetheless. So if I were to speculate, I would think that TM, being an aggressor, would've attacked GZ unless GZ ran away. The car wouldn't have stopped him. Clearly, the law didn't stop TM from assaulting GZ.

Community watch member shoots and kills suspicious person in self-defense. -- so what would you do if you were being followed by somebody who did not identify himself and was carrying a weapon?? You would fear for your life....you can`t have it both ways!!

I would run home and call the cops. I would clench my keys just in case it came down to a fight so I'd have a fighting chance. But damn right I'd de-escalate by running away. If you see someone coming tailgating you with road rage trying to cut you off and brake check, what do you do? You can run away, call the cops, stop your car. But if you pull out your gun and start shooting, that's on you. TM was the aggressor here. He should've tried his best to de-escalate.

There is no racism in what happened. -- umm YES!! There is...it was heard all over the 911 calls....

You're right. The whole "creepy ass cracker" comments weren't racist. TM attacked GZ because he thought he was a creepy ass cracker. GZ was not a racist.
 

Zebo

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You have zero evidence the Martin attacked first, zero.

True. But we have presumption of innocence and without proof GZ attacked first you got nothing.

Beyond that doesnt even matter who started it whther justifiable homicide is allowed read the law or listen to Captain Alexis Carter testimony.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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The root issue of the Zimmerman case is the peoples ability to protect not only their community, but also themselves.

Community had a rash of crime.

Community organizes watch program.

Community watch member sees suspicious person walking streets at night.

Suspicious person attacks community watch member.

Community watch member shoots and kills suspicious person in self-defense.

There is no racism in what happened.

By protesting the verdict, people are saying we should not have the right to protect our community, nor should we have the right to protect ourselves.

In other words, protestors are saying we should stay in our homes why crime runs rampant on our streets.

Martin and Zimmerman were at the wrong place and at the wrong time. But just because Zimmerman was following Martin, that did not give Martin the right to attack Zimmerman.

There is no reason to protest this verdict. To protest the verdict is to protest our ability to be safe and secure.

We are in absolute agreement.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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True. But we have presumption of innocence and without proof GZ attacked first you got nothing.

Beyond that doesnt even matter who started it whther justifiable homicide is allowed read the law or listen to Captain Alexis Carter testimony.

Yes, hence the reason he was found not guilty. Why do you not afford Martin the same right?

I'm not the one claiming Martin is guilty of a crime because Zimmerman wasn't found guilty. That's the stupidest shit I've heard!
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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You have zero evidence TM didn't attack GZ first nor did the prosecution. The fact the only wounds he had was an abrasion on his knuckle and the gunshot wound, it doesn't appear that GZ ever laid a hand on TM.

Yeah, which is why I never said he did.

You sound a little butthurt that I called you on your bullshit.

Why are you butthurt?
 

Zebo

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Jul 29, 2001
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Yes, hence the reason he was found not guilty. Why do you not afford Martin the same right?

I'm not the one claiming Martin is guilty of a crime because Zimmerman wasn't found guilty. That's the stupidest shit I've heard!


That is what the jury found.

That is what The Sanford Police and Chief found

Trayvon Martin was beating the hell out of George Zimmerman a felony when Martin was shot in lawful self-defense.

If you have proof that did not happen then I'll say Martin is not guilty.
 
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